Jordan Peterson

And so I'm curious first if you think that's a reasonable characterization of what you're doing. But then I'm also curious, you play a kind of, it's like a Bugs Bunny character in a sense. Like there are these trickster characters in mythology that are troublemakers because of their, what would you say? Yeah, it's like the kid who says the emperor has no clothes.

And so I'm curious first if you think that's a reasonable characterization of what you're doing. But then I'm also curious, you play a kind of, it's like a Bugs Bunny character in a sense. Like there are these trickster characters in mythology that are troublemakers because of their, what would you say? Yeah, it's like the kid who says the emperor has no clothes.

And so you're playing that, and you're playing it with a comedic edge, and it can also be pretty harsh. Are you surprised that you ended up in the domain of comedy, that you ended up making movies, that you ended up becoming, I mean, you're a documentary star now. What do you think about all that? And did you think that was a reasonable characterization of what you've been doing?

And so you're playing that, and you're playing it with a comedic edge, and it can also be pretty harsh. Are you surprised that you ended up in the domain of comedy, that you ended up making movies, that you ended up becoming, I mean, you're a documentary star now. What do you think about all that? And did you think that was a reasonable characterization of what you've been doing?

And so you're playing that, and you're playing it with a comedic edge, and it can also be pretty harsh. Are you surprised that you ended up in the domain of comedy, that you ended up making movies, that you ended up becoming, I mean, you're a documentary star now. What do you think about all that? And did you think that was a reasonable characterization of what you've been doing?

Maybe that's a conservative function. I wonder if that's a conservative function, pointing out the obvious.

Maybe that's a conservative function. I wonder if that's a conservative function, pointing out the obvious.

Maybe that's a conservative function. I wonder if that's a conservative function, pointing out the obvious.

And that's where... You don't want to underestimate the utility of wit and play. You know, when I was lecturing at Harvard, I lectured about very serious topics. You know, I mean, the most serious topics I could... that I had encountered political catastrophe, atrocity, authoritarianism, brutality.

And that's where... You don't want to underestimate the utility of wit and play. You know, when I was lecturing at Harvard, I lectured about very serious topics. You know, I mean, the most serious topics I could... that I had encountered political catastrophe, atrocity, authoritarianism, brutality.

And that's where... You don't want to underestimate the utility of wit and play. You know, when I was lecturing at Harvard, I lectured about very serious topics. You know, I mean, the most serious topics I could... that I had encountered political catastrophe, atrocity, authoritarianism, brutality.

And I had this little voice in the back of my head all the time that told me that if I was a real master of that, I would be able to do it with a light touch. And I thought that was pretty preposterous when talking about things like the Soviet atrocities. But what I came to realize over a very long period of time was that if you're a master of something, you do it in a spirit of play.

And I had this little voice in the back of my head all the time that told me that if I was a real master of that, I would be able to do it with a light touch. And I thought that was pretty preposterous when talking about things like the Soviet atrocities. But what I came to realize over a very long period of time was that if you're a master of something, you do it in a spirit of play.

And I had this little voice in the back of my head all the time that told me that if I was a real master of that, I would be able to do it with a light touch. And I thought that was pretty preposterous when talking about things like the Soviet atrocities. But what I came to realize over a very long period of time was that if you're a master of something, you do it in a spirit of play.

And that play gives you some leeway, because that's partly what play means, but it also means that you have that leaven of wit that stops you from being a scold. You know, when I first encountered Rush Limbaugh, this was quite a while ago, 30 years ago probably, I went down to California, and that's where I first heard him. And I knew a little bit, I knew about the fact that he was a...

And that play gives you some leeway, because that's partly what play means, but it also means that you have that leaven of wit that stops you from being a scold. You know, when I first encountered Rush Limbaugh, this was quite a while ago, 30 years ago probably, I went down to California, and that's where I first heard him. And I knew a little bit, I knew about the fact that he was a...

And that play gives you some leeway, because that's partly what play means, but it also means that you have that leaven of wit that stops you from being a scold. You know, when I first encountered Rush Limbaugh, this was quite a while ago, 30 years ago probably, I went down to California, and that's where I first heard him. And I knew a little bit, I knew about the fact that he was a...

conservative commentator and that he was causing the progressive types a fair bit of misery and grief. But you know, when I first heard him, I thought that he was essentially a comedian. And there isn't a more effective mode of social commentary. I don't think that comedy... That's partly what makes Rogan so effective.

conservative commentator and that he was causing the progressive types a fair bit of misery and grief. But you know, when I first heard him, I thought that he was essentially a comedian. And there isn't a more effective mode of social commentary. I don't think that comedy... That's partly what makes Rogan so effective.

conservative commentator and that he was causing the progressive types a fair bit of misery and grief. But you know, when I first heard him, I thought that he was essentially a comedian. And there isn't a more effective mode of social commentary. I don't think that comedy... That's partly what makes Rogan so effective.