Jordan Peterson

And then because the people who are being filmed know they're being filmed, they're also straddling that same line. And I guess that's also helping me understand, to what degree, what was your attitude towards the people in the moment and then later who revealed themselves so unpleasantly and awkwardly on camera? I mean, I'm thinking particularly maybe of the scene with Robin D'Angelo

where she was enticed or tempted into making a reparation offer in cash on the spot. I mean, that's a pretty damn awkward situation. And I had real mixed feelings when I was watching it. I mean, part of my feeling, I'm not a Robin D'Angelo fan, to put it mildly. I think she's done an unbelievable amount of damage. But the agreeable part of me, which is pretty...

where she was enticed or tempted into making a reparation offer in cash on the spot. I mean, that's a pretty damn awkward situation. And I had real mixed feelings when I was watching it. I mean, part of my feeling, I'm not a Robin D'Angelo fan, to put it mildly. I think she's done an unbelievable amount of damage. But the agreeable part of me, which is pretty...

where she was enticed or tempted into making a reparation offer in cash on the spot. I mean, that's a pretty damn awkward situation. And I had real mixed feelings when I was watching it. I mean, part of my feeling, I'm not a Robin D'Angelo fan, to put it mildly. I think she's done an unbelievable amount of damage. But the agreeable part of me, which is pretty...

characterological, nonetheless felt bad for her watching her make a mockery of herself in that manner and having that captured. And so I'm wondering, this isn't a criticism, it's a genuine question. I'm wondering what you thought about the moral propriety of doing that. Let me preface that with a brief story.

characterological, nonetheless felt bad for her watching her make a mockery of herself in that manner and having that captured. And so I'm wondering, this isn't a criticism, it's a genuine question. I'm wondering what you thought about the moral propriety of doing that. Let me preface that with a brief story.

characterological, nonetheless felt bad for her watching her make a mockery of herself in that manner and having that captured. And so I'm wondering, this isn't a criticism, it's a genuine question. I'm wondering what you thought about the moral propriety of doing that. Let me preface that with a brief story.

I had to dispense with some people in my lab at one point when I was a professor, and I was having a hard time stealing myself to fire them. And I talked to one of my friends, who's kind of a professional at that, about how he dealt with the emotional consequences of having to fire people. And he gave me a pretty good five-minute spiel about why he actually enjoyed it.

I had to dispense with some people in my lab at one point when I was a professor, and I was having a hard time stealing myself to fire them. And I talked to one of my friends, who's kind of a professional at that, about how he dealt with the emotional consequences of having to fire people. And he gave me a pretty good five-minute spiel about why he actually enjoyed it.

I had to dispense with some people in my lab at one point when I was a professor, and I was having a hard time stealing myself to fire them. And I talked to one of my friends, who's kind of a professional at that, about how he dealt with the emotional consequences of having to fire people. And he gave me a pretty good five-minute spiel about why he actually enjoyed it.

And his attitude was that he was sent into corporations to find people who kissed up and kicked down and who took all the credit and did none of the work and did nothing but cause trouble and backbite and bicker and gossip and pretend to be working and sabotage. And he'd find out who they were and tell them and send them on their way. You know, and that was...

And his attitude was that he was sent into corporations to find people who kissed up and kicked down and who took all the credit and did none of the work and did nothing but cause trouble and backbite and bicker and gossip and pretend to be working and sabotage. And he'd find out who they were and tell them and send them on their way. You know, and that was...

And his attitude was that he was sent into corporations to find people who kissed up and kicked down and who took all the credit and did none of the work and did nothing but cause trouble and backbite and bicker and gossip and pretend to be working and sabotage. And he'd find out who they were and tell them and send them on their way. You know, and that was...

a very different attitude than the one I would have taken because I tend to be, you know, overly sympathetic to people, arguably. And so, but I felt that same tension, you know, watching your movies. And so I'm wondering, you explained that to some degree because you're playing a part and there's a movie being made. And so there's a sense of fiction about it. But personally, like,

a very different attitude than the one I would have taken because I tend to be, you know, overly sympathetic to people, arguably. And so, but I felt that same tension, you know, watching your movies. And so I'm wondering, you explained that to some degree because you're playing a part and there's a movie being made. And so there's a sense of fiction about it. But personally, like,

a very different attitude than the one I would have taken because I tend to be, you know, overly sympathetic to people, arguably. And so, but I felt that same tension, you know, watching your movies. And so I'm wondering, you explained that to some degree because you're playing a part and there's a movie being made. And so there's a sense of fiction about it. But personally, like,

I mean, you obviously didn't do Robin D'Angelo any good on the reputational side, and I'd say that was the case with many of the people that put themselves in your films. So what do you make of that, Matt?

I mean, you obviously didn't do Robin D'Angelo any good on the reputational side, and I'd say that was the case with many of the people that put themselves in your films. So what do you make of that, Matt?

I mean, you obviously didn't do Robin D'Angelo any good on the reputational side, and I'd say that was the case with many of the people that put themselves in your films. So what do you make of that, Matt?

Right, frauds. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Deep, deep, self-aggrandizing, naive, moralizing, hyper-agreeable, deluded, reputation-savaging, cancel-culture frauds. Right.