Jordan Peterson

And James and I talked about that, and I understand that in the aftermath of that, and perhaps not directly as a consequence of the podcast incident, You and James have been exchanging words, and I'm kind of curious about that. Do you want to lay that out a bit and tell me what's going on?

So just- Right. There come the psychopaths, the people who are keying Teslas, resentful to the core, cowardly beyond comprehension, perfectly-

So just- Right. There come the psychopaths, the people who are keying Teslas, resentful to the core, cowardly beyond comprehension, perfectly-

So just- Right. There come the psychopaths, the people who are keying Teslas, resentful to the core, cowardly beyond comprehension, perfectly-

But that's about the only one that's left that's really taboo. All the curse words have lost that, but that one hasn't.

But that's about the only one that's left that's really taboo. All the curse words have lost that, but that one hasn't.

But that's about the only one that's left that's really taboo. All the curse words have lost that, but that one hasn't.

Right, right. Yeah, well, the acceptance of that taboo if you're white and part of the oppressor class, let's say, acceptance of that taboo and justification of it is compliance with the oppressor-oppressed narrative and a proclamation of your culpability as essentially morally equivalent to a slaver. So it is a really big problem. It's a really big problem, right? It's not trivial.

Right, right. Yeah, well, the acceptance of that taboo if you're white and part of the oppressor class, let's say, acceptance of that taboo and justification of it is compliance with the oppressor-oppressed narrative and a proclamation of your culpability as essentially morally equivalent to a slaver. So it is a really big problem. It's a really big problem, right? It's not trivial.

Right, right. Yeah, well, the acceptance of that taboo if you're white and part of the oppressor class, let's say, acceptance of that taboo and justification of it is compliance with the oppressor-oppressed narrative and a proclamation of your culpability as essentially morally equivalent to a slaver. So it is a really big problem. It's a really big problem, right? It's not trivial.

Yeah, well, your argument is serious. I mean, the counter-argument's pretty obvious, which is that she shouldn't be rewarded for her actions. But, like, both of those arguments stand, you know what I mean? And the question is the nuance in between. Have you thought about talking to Lindsay? I mean, I've found James... You can have a conversation with James, you know, and I'm wondering.

Yeah, well, your argument is serious. I mean, the counter-argument's pretty obvious, which is that she shouldn't be rewarded for her actions. But, like, both of those arguments stand, you know what I mean? And the question is the nuance in between. Have you thought about talking to Lindsay? I mean, I've found James... You can have a conversation with James, you know, and I'm wondering.

Yeah, well, your argument is serious. I mean, the counter-argument's pretty obvious, which is that she shouldn't be rewarded for her actions. But, like, both of those arguments stand, you know what I mean? And the question is the nuance in between. Have you thought about talking to Lindsay? I mean, I've found James... You can have a conversation with James, you know, and I'm wondering.

I've had moments of pretty severe dislocation, even with friends. You know, and one of the things I've learned is that, and I'm not trying to lecture you at all, but one of the things I've learned is that, you know, a month of reconsideration and then the, what would you say, taking the opportunity to actually talk, That's pretty useful, to take a longer view, you know?

I've had moments of pretty severe dislocation, even with friends. You know, and one of the things I've learned is that, and I'm not trying to lecture you at all, but one of the things I've learned is that, you know, a month of reconsideration and then the, what would you say, taking the opportunity to actually talk, That's pretty useful, to take a longer view, you know?

I've had moments of pretty severe dislocation, even with friends. You know, and one of the things I've learned is that, and I'm not trying to lecture you at all, but one of the things I've learned is that, you know, a month of reconsideration and then the, what would you say, taking the opportunity to actually talk, That's pretty useful, to take a longer view, you know?

Because people can be stupid. People are stupid in the moment. And the things that James said about you obviously don't seem to be productive. But it would be good, you know, if the conservative side of things could model a bit more wise, sober second thought, you know? And so... And I like James and I've had productive conversations with him and he's a force for good, all things considered.

Because people can be stupid. People are stupid in the moment. And the things that James said about you obviously don't seem to be productive. But it would be good, you know, if the conservative side of things could model a bit more wise, sober second thought, you know? And so... And I like James and I've had productive conversations with him and he's a force for good, all things considered.

Because people can be stupid. People are stupid in the moment. And the things that James said about you obviously don't seem to be productive. But it would be good, you know, if the conservative side of things could model a bit more wise, sober second thought, you know? And so... And I like James and I've had productive conversations with him and he's a force for good, all things considered.

And I would say the same thing about you and it's, It'd be unfortunate to see unnecessary fractures in a side that's already pushed pretty hard to the wall, you know? So anyways, that's my two cents on it.