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Jordan Schneider

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

countries in the world going to start to put the brakes on stuff.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

Yeah.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

I mean, that question of like, which societies will hold up better in a time of sort of rapid employment turnover is one that I find fascinating and one that I think is a very open question.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

Look, in the 1980s, there was a lot of growth in China.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

There was a lot of inflation.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

There was also a lot of unemployment.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And that sort of like

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

mix of things led to the protests in 1989.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And that lesson has been internalized.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And I think one of the sort of other things that happened with the COVID controls is like there was this very ideological decision by Xi to like lock stuff down and this is the right policy.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And at a certain point, you started getting protests and people being frustrated.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And there was enough of economic pain that one day he was just like, all right, fuck it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

Like, let's let him get COVID and we'll figure it out as we go along.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

So with any of these sort of big political decisions, there are competing interests.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And it's not like one is going to go away just because you are sort of marginally more inclined to rely on software innovations to power productivity growth.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

So I'm talking less about the sort of energy permitting than just like, at what point is a system going to feel like change is coming too fast?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

And then this sort of like anesthesiologist lobby, like locks it off from coming into their ecosystem.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

The teachers say, no, we don't want AI in our schools.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

I mean, that, that sort of thing to me is going to be the more relevant variable of which country is going to gain the most from this and be able to diffuse the technology.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the US–China decoupling: What’s really at stake (AI, rare earths, Taiwan, trade)

Because if it is so economically relevant and useful, like both countries are capitalist enough.