Jordan

So he was like, love me, be sorry.

But I was like, wait, I'm really hurt from what you did to me for four years to get me to this headspace.

So like, I need you to acknowledge that too.

And it was both of us not acknowledging each other.

No, I didn't.

Yeah, not as intense as when I left.

That's when the glass hit the wall or when the glass shattered and I was like, okay, I'm done.

But yeah, I feel like we weren't seeing each other's pain for sure.

This is good.

He's like, this will redeem myself.

Yeah, I mean, neither of us are perfect.

No.

The thing is, I think the reason she did what she did was because she was trying to hide her own actions.

And...

I think that's what's interesting about the whole story is like, yes, there's truth to my story.

Like I did have an affair, but she wanted it to look 10 times worse.

So if anything about her ever came out, oh, Jesse was worse.

And let me try to hide this and get him on my side.

And, you know, so yeah, at the time with Italy and all that, I was never told that.

It was when cameras came up that it was made.