Jordan

And for me, it's kind of giving that microphone to people who don't have a voice in popular media, popular society. That's kind of my because.

And for me, it's kind of giving that microphone to people who don't have a voice in popular media, popular society. That's kind of my because.

And for me, it's kind of giving that microphone to people who don't have a voice in popular media, popular society. That's kind of my because.

Yeah, I think two things come to mind. I actually worked for more mainstream corporate outlets. I worked at Fox News for a period which was eye-opening. And then I went to MSNBC. And I was behind the camera, booking guests, producing segments. But at MSNBC, it never sat well with me. It's in the middle of New York City, Rockefeller Center. And just walking into the studio, it was just...

Yeah, I think two things come to mind. I actually worked for more mainstream corporate outlets. I worked at Fox News for a period which was eye-opening. And then I went to MSNBC. And I was behind the camera, booking guests, producing segments. But at MSNBC, it never sat well with me. It's in the middle of New York City, Rockefeller Center. And just walking into the studio, it was just...

Yeah, I think two things come to mind. I actually worked for more mainstream corporate outlets. I worked at Fox News for a period which was eye-opening. And then I went to MSNBC. And I was behind the camera, booking guests, producing segments. But at MSNBC, it never sat well with me. It's in the middle of New York City, Rockefeller Center. And just walking into the studio, it was just...

I mean, so many homeless people. And that was never covered on MSNBC. And I had pitched my producer, you know, hey, why don't I, it was around Christmas time, you know, season of giving. Why don't I go speak with homeless people? Not as like a gimmick, you know, get their stories. Maybe we could help. And a producer kind of patted me on the back like, oh, that's admirable, but that won't rate.

I mean, so many homeless people. And that was never covered on MSNBC. And I had pitched my producer, you know, hey, why don't I, it was around Christmas time, you know, season of giving. Why don't I go speak with homeless people? Not as like a gimmick, you know, get their stories. Maybe we could help. And a producer kind of patted me on the back like, oh, that's admirable, but that won't rate.

I mean, so many homeless people. And that was never covered on MSNBC. And I had pitched my producer, you know, hey, why don't I, it was around Christmas time, you know, season of giving. Why don't I go speak with homeless people? Not as like a gimmick, you know, get their stories. Maybe we could help. And a producer kind of patted me on the back like, oh, that's admirable, but that won't rate.

And meaning we won't get ratings. And that's when it kind of hit me. I was always I was already a little like unfulfilled in the mainstream media grind. But that's when I realized, like, I'm never going to be able to actually do stories of substance, talk to people that don't rate. So that's kind of when I left mainstream media and.

And meaning we won't get ratings. And that's when it kind of hit me. I was always I was already a little like unfulfilled in the mainstream media grind. But that's when I realized, like, I'm never going to be able to actually do stories of substance, talk to people that don't rate. So that's kind of when I left mainstream media and.

And meaning we won't get ratings. And that's when it kind of hit me. I was always I was already a little like unfulfilled in the mainstream media grind. But that's when I realized, like, I'm never going to be able to actually do stories of substance, talk to people that don't rate. So that's kind of when I left mainstream media and.

For me, the second epiphany that's kind of sustained me to now in 2016, I was covering the campaigns. Obviously, it was very hectic with the Bernie Sanders kind of wave and then the Trump wave. So, you know, I was bouncing around different rallies, different candidates. But a resident from Flint had come up to me at a conference.

For me, the second epiphany that's kind of sustained me to now in 2016, I was covering the campaigns. Obviously, it was very hectic with the Bernie Sanders kind of wave and then the Trump wave. So, you know, I was bouncing around different rallies, different candidates. But a resident from Flint had come up to me at a conference.

For me, the second epiphany that's kind of sustained me to now in 2016, I was covering the campaigns. Obviously, it was very hectic with the Bernie Sanders kind of wave and then the Trump wave. So, you know, I was bouncing around different rallies, different candidates. But a resident from Flint had come up to me at a conference.

Basically, it was almost like we're deserted on an apocalyptic island and the rescue choppers have left without us, begging me to come. So to my boss at the Times credit, he sent me. And I just realized so many other stories in mainstream media, even independent media, is kind of like you parachute in. You cover it and then you're out.

Basically, it was almost like we're deserted on an apocalyptic island and the rescue choppers have left without us, begging me to come. So to my boss at the Times credit, he sent me. And I just realized so many other stories in mainstream media, even independent media, is kind of like you parachute in. You cover it and then you're out.

Basically, it was almost like we're deserted on an apocalyptic island and the rescue choppers have left without us, begging me to come. So to my boss at the Times credit, he sent me. And I just realized so many other stories in mainstream media, even independent media, is kind of like you parachute in. You cover it and then you're out.

And, you know, everyone has a very short attention span and we can't stay on stories, whether they're mass shootings or whatever have you. But to me, this was a crisis was an understatement. This was a absolute disaster. And I just realized from that first trip in Flint that I was going to have to dedicate more than one story to it.

And, you know, everyone has a very short attention span and we can't stay on stories, whether they're mass shootings or whatever have you. But to me, this was a crisis was an understatement. This was a absolute disaster. And I just realized from that first trip in Flint that I was going to have to dedicate more than one story to it.