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The Viall Files

E1028 – Going Deeper with Sparkle Megan and Jordan: Love Is Blind Unpacked

05 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What does Sparkle Megan think about her nickname?

13.193 - 16.909 Unknown

So is it still Sparkle Megan or is that, are we still going by Sparkle Megan?

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17.311 - 19.773 Jordan

I don't think that name will ever live me down, unfortunately.

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19.793 - 33.986 Megan

I was going to say, it's kind of crazy that behind the scenes is that there was just another Megan and you needed to figure out a way to differentiate yourself. And then now it's like the media is like, oh, Sparkle Megan this, that, this.

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Well, Sparkle Megan, Jordan, welcome to the show.

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36.088 - 36.668 Megan

Thank you.

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Thanks for having us. We're excited to have you. Very excited to have you both. Thanks for both coming. Sometimes when we love to do the he said, she said versions that are... Not on speaking terms. But you guys, did you guys take the same flight? Same flight. We sure did. Okay. So you guys are clearly like.

54.511 - 56.133 Megan

Did you trade someone to sit beside each other?

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Yeah, did you sit next to each other?

57.736 - 58.517 Jordan

No. Okay, you did not.

Chapter 2: How did Megan and Jordan end up on Love Is Blind?

238.947 - 254.269 Jordan

So first day you date everybody for 10 minutes. And then at the end of the day, rank everybody. So I think, you know, Jordan came in hot saying like, Hey, I'm a dad. I had a vasectomy, but, but, but I was like, Whoa, that was interesting. And then I think my sparkle Meg thing turned him off.

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255.05 - 258.148 Unknown

Um, which I appreciate it. Not me.

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258.228 - 269.711 Jordan

Totally fair. Totally fair. But yeah, I think just the way the algorithm shakes out, we just kept getting mashed. And then as each day went on, we were like, hey, I think there's something here.

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269.891 - 283.392 Unknown

What about that? I'm curious. for both of you, taught you about how you guys look for love. I guess, you know, following your guys' breakup and you guys went out into the real world.

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283.452 - 301.253 Unknown

I mean, it's kind of fascinating because to be like 12th on your list and keep meeting and keep meeting and then I know you guys didn't end up together, but there seemed to be a real mutual, like something good there. There was a relationship that, you know, I think as viewers we all believed in.

301.435 - 317.476 Jordan

Yeah, so I guess I think, you know, we're both kind of into like the universe pushes in that direction. I'm not super into the woo-woo stuff, but yeah, it was just, again, the odds that we get cast on this TV show, like who knows how many people apply, right?

317.516 - 331.635 Jordan

And then the fact that there's 16 people, 16 guys, 16 girls, and then the fact that you just, like we fell so hard in love with each other, it just kept just getting like more and more, you know, like statistically impossible. it taught me certainly.

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And so we would get pep talks every day from Chris, the creator and he, you know, encouraging us to like not choose what we've always gone for and to get outside of our comfort zone. And like, I think for me, especially that hit hard. Cause I was like, you know, the mics of the world, that was who I had always dated. And so every pep talk that we got from Chris was, it like really resonated.

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And I think especially as Jordan and I continue to see each other and date, you know, I was like, man, I, this is the kind of guy that I probably never have gone for in the real world. But like, this is the guy you marry.

Chapter 3: What was the experience like in the pods for Megan and Jordan?

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But, I mean, just I'm curious your guys' expectations. Did you have an idea in your head of what the other person looked like?

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How do you do that?

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625.931 - 641.097 Jordan

Yeah, so Jordan, I mean, I felt like we were pretty good the whole time about keeping... like, talk about physical appearance out of it. I think tattoos was, like, the only question that I specifically asked that was, like, a physical marker. And he even said, oh, I've got a couple small ones.

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641.117 - 649.992 Megan

And was that because... Did Mike say something about his tattoos? Or did you just have, like, a random... I'm trying to remember. I think after the fact, he did, like...

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throw something in there, but, like, I wouldn't have known it was connected to Jordan. But he would throw, just in, like, normal conversation, he would throw some, like, funny things in there, like, oh, you know, I'm 5'7", I'm a skinny skater kid. Oh, yeah, I would just fit. I was really trying to get him to lean into the whole experiment.

670.861 - 679.152 Jordan

Yeah, and so I was, like, I think going into the reveal, I literally prepared myself. I was, like, he's gonna be a total gremlin, like...

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you were preparing yourself for ugly for the worst well cause like I can't hide my feelings and so I was just like alright like I don't know and so I think I was like very pleasantly surprised and like when you're standing in front of that reveal door there's like a tiny little sliver cause you're backlit by all these lights and there's this tiny little sliver that I could like see his shadow through and I was like okay he's tall he's got hair like a big head of hair

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yeah they're gonna change that next season completely black out and they make you stand there for like five minutes or something yeah and they're like on the lights are on the lights are off and you're like jesus just how much time are you actually spending talking before they pull you guys away again 20 minutes? I think it was, no, it was a super weird time. It was like 17 or something.

Chapter 4: How did the transition from pods to real life affect their relationship?

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Like, I think there was one date we spent eight hours or something in the pods. Awesome. And you're just like having these deep conversations. You're laughing. You're crying.

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784.936 - 797.665 Megan

Was there a certain question that like I know you're in a relationship. Are you in a relationship, Jordan? No, you're not. Is there a question that you would take from the love is one process into like a dating environment?

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797.965 - 806.655 Jordan

Maybe not like a particular question, but like the strategy of just being hyper intentional, you know, like I really like how they had the guided questions and, you know, no one told you what to do.

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806.735 - 818.928 Jordan

Sometimes you could just freestyle and then sometimes there might be like a like a dip in conversation and you could just open your little notebook and, you know, have eight hours to talk about something. So it was very cool how they do it. They truly wanted to work out.

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819.289 - 826.757 Megan

And so we know, Megan, you were between Mike, Jordan and Blake was like your three that we saw. Who else were you talking to, Jordan?

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Um, so I think I was, it was just Casey up until the last few days. Oh, okay. Yeah. So there was a moment where, cause all us girls, I think same with you guys, like we kept pretty quiet in the lounge. And so like, I don't know, I think I've seen other seasons to know, like, don't show your cards. Right.

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But there was a moment where Casey and I, I kind of put two and two together, and I thought we were in a love square with, like, me, her, Mike, and Jordan.

860.412 - 861.093 Megan

Oh, yeah.

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And I was like, oh, man. Because she said something about Luca, like, pretty far into the process, and I was like, oh, this sucks.

Chapter 5: What challenges did they face during filming?

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Yeah. I mean, I can't. I do okay. But yeah, I just think it's important.

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1151.177 - 1156.485 Jordan

We've all been a little sauced before. Hey, Mexico, we all got real sauced. But that's the thing. I don't drink. I don't drink a lot.

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1156.506 - 1163.396 Megan

But when I do drink, I'm trying to get like pretty... But yeah, I mean, that totally makes sense of like, if you're going to marry this person, you need to see them when they're drunk.

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1163.416 - 1168.805 Jordan

Yeah, you want to experience how they are when they're drunk. Because yeah, the conversations just turn sour for no reason sometimes.

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1169.306 - 1178.01 Megan

Which was... The night in Baja with him and Joe doing their back and forth, was that the first time you, I'm guessing, had seen him drunk?

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Super drunk, probably.

1179.813 - 1180.073 Megan

Yeah.

1180.954 - 1201.141 Jordan

I mean, yeah, that was the second day we were together in person, I think. But that was also the first time she'd seen me joke around with my boys like that. Yeah. Yeah, I apologize. That was super out left field. I'm sure that was culture shock to the max. And they edited a lot. I was saying some wildly inappropriate stuff, so they... Shout out to the editors.

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I want to be open, honest, and transparent. I've been working blue collar my entire life, so it's just making the worst jokes, the most inappropriate jokes to make your boys in the field laugh. She was just getting the taste of that.

Chapter 6: How did they navigate their breakup before the wedding?

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Were you dating someone?

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1576.021 - 1587.879 Jordan

Yeah, that was kind of, I mean, it was like a really rocky relationship and she just called me and say, Hey, like I took a pregnancy test and it's positive. And I was like, okay, like, I don't know what we do from here, but let's figure it out.

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So you're right away. You're just like offering her whatever support she needs.

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1592.426 - 1596.572 Jordan

Yeah, no, a hundred percent. I said, let's at least try, you know, let's try to make this work.

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1597.013 - 1598.155 Megan

And what was your parents' reaction?

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Were they like, my parents are very conservative people and they were like, you need to get married to her. And I said, I'm okay. I said, I'm good. Good on that. We'll give this, we'll give this a go. We'll give it some time. Yeah, no, his mom.

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I appreciate that just because like, you know, there's always like a lot of conversations that can be polarizing around this topic. But like as a man, like it's great that you, you did your part to make her feel like she had your support. Because I think a lot of times women in those positions can feel very alone. Yeah.

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and very isolated, especially if they don't have a relationship or rapport with the guy they got pregnant with.

Chapter 7: What led to Megan's decision to become a mom?

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And they really feel like they're being told like they're on an island.

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1636.713 - 1656.2 Jordan

I don't want you to put me on a pedestal because I definitely, if I could have got a redo, I did not treat her the way I should have. I was very like, Oh, like you got pregnant. Like, this is your responsibility. It's very immature mindset. You know, at one time she asked me to rub her feet and I told her no. Going back, I got terrible, right? But I try to be big on accountability.

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1656.24 - 1664.438 Jordan

And again, I was, I was a young man. I've made a million mistakes. I'm going to make a million more, but I really wish I could have treated her just better. A lot better.

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I appreciate the self-awareness and thanks for being so honest about that.

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But I, you know, and again, not, I'm not trying to put you on a pedestal, but I just think there's a lot of times in those situations, you know, there's one thing to not get a foot rub and there's another thing to just be like, I'm literally alone and I don't know how to, you know, there are a lot of women out there who may want to move forward and have this child, but truly feel like they, they can't.

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you know, and they don't have the means to do that.

1690.255 - 1704.342 Jordan

And, uh, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm just too, too self-critical sometimes, but yeah, I just, but yeah, sure. Rubber feet next time. I'm going to step it up. We're not like that, but Lucas did that. I should say, no, we're just, we're strictly friends now.

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Chapter 8: How has being a mom changed Megan's perspective on life?

1990.266 - 1996.013 Megan

Okay. Going into Baja, like, were y'all on the same page of, like, hey, we're going to sleep in the same bed?

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1996.754 - 1999.558 Jordan

Yeah, she asked me in the pods. She was like, are we going to constimate?

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Constimate?

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2001.4 - 2019.082 Jordan

Isn't that what you said? Constimate? consummate, whatever. But I said, I don't even know what that word means. She said, are we going to have sex? I was like, yeah. I said, if you're down, please. I've been like, yeah, around whatever, how many dudes, just the whole time, no phone, no radio, no, just.

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2019.122 - 2024.689 Megan

Did y'all become like friends with the cameraman or, or Mike guys? Cause you're just like, Hey Todd.

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Cause we, you got a crew. So especially when we were in Denver, we had like an assigned crew. We got, we got pretty close to them.

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Yeah. I suppose it's not too much different than meeting someone long distance and having a lot of conversations on the phone. I mean, you would know what they look like.

2039.868 - 2040.428 Megan

Right, yeah.

2040.628 - 2042.611 Jordan

Yeah, no, it wasn't weird for me at all.

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