Jordi Visser

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And for the people I've become very friendly with, that I exchange texts with that are building businesses, the entrepreneurs, NFTs, my new kind of crew that I'm involved with.

I love them.

They're great people.

I believe coming out of this one, everything that I personally believe Bitcoin would be the asset of the future that every traditional finance person would get into, there needed to be two things that happened.

One was there needed to be a fundamental argument that grew over time, a narrative, as you say.

Traditional finance people love narratives.

If they believe there's a reason to get involved with something, it's much easier.

The whole crowd of, I don't know what Bitcoin is.

I don't want to be involved in it.

It was angry.

And then gradually over the last two years, I've seen people go, give me the story on it.

It's happened a couple of times this week, because I'm talking about it.

And on the webinar this week, I'm like, this is what I'm watching for when Bitcoin is going to go up.

And when it does in this one, it will start for the same reason it did over the survive and thrive time.

The government will have to do something to stop the asset deflation.

But number two, the narrative has grown, and Ben Horowitz talked about it.

Jeff Curry talked about it on Macro Voices, and Emad Mostak talked about it with Raoul Pal.

All three of them said the same thing.

A commodity person, an ex-hedge fund person who bought an AI business, and Ben Horowitz, one of the prominent people in VC, both said, AI cannot survive without crypto.