Jordi Visser

He wanted there to be a safe with a gun.

He's like, so he turns to me one day, he's like, got a great opportunity.

And I'm looking, I'm like, what great opportunity is this?

He goes, I want you to go to Brazil.

I'm like, what do you mean?

You're going to Brazil.

He goes, no, no, I got a bigger job here, but I need someone to go down there.

And I was like,

Now, I had nothing to lose.

I started my first year making $30,000.

They don't pay you more than doubling you at any firm.

So even though I was moving up the ladder fast, I was moving up the ladder fast in pay.

And the reason this story is important, I became a partner very quickly.

Now, when you joined Morgan Stanley out of an Ivy League school, you went to a class, you're an associate, and then there's a set framework of how quickly you can move up.

Because I started with no silo,

I was able to office a firm and become unfettered.

Yeah, I was able to have it.

So I got lucky in the fact that by not paying attention in school, being an underachiever my whole life, but still having a good brain and then finally using it, you know, when I got to Morgan Stanley and enjoying the mathematics and the calculus and everything about it, I was able to move up the ladder.

The reason that's important is because I excelled on curiosity.

I excelled on fearlessness.