Jordi Visser

Europe has been a horrible investment.

Japan has been a good investment over the course of the last 15 years.

It's been a horrible investment since 1992.

The only thing that's worked

that has either beaten Bitcoin or been close to Bitcoin has been the thing that Sam and Lynn came up with as number two on the list.

It's the one that Raoul talks about as innovation directly to Bitcoin, they move together.

So theoretically, you need to believe that the inflation that we print money, the NASDAQ and innovation goes higher.

Well, that's over for me.

Commodities have been sideways since 2007, even with the rally we've seen, because they peaked then and they went down.

Oil was $155 when I went to China in May of 2008.

We're down in the 60s.

So there is deflation that happens with more innovation.

It's just that we get caught in this thing to think, well, they print money and the stock market goes higher.

The stock market has not gone higher in Brazil in local terms.

Right.

Sorry, in dollar terms.

So I have this thing of rotation in the back of my mind that if the fiat system is $800 trillion and Bitcoin is $2 trillion, which it's not right now, but let's assume we get back to 2 trillion, there's a rotation that'll happen.

What'll drive it up to 50 trillion, to 100 trillion?

The only thing in my mind has always been the rotation.

The most logical answer is if everyone who owns the 800 trillion, you took their average age,