Josephine Wolff

What I have seen so far since the announcement of Mythos has been fairly well contained, which suggests to me, by the way, that the way Anthropic has done this is not necessarily terrible.

That choosing a couple large tech companies and working with them to patch some of the most widely deployed software

might be a sensible first step.

It's obviously not where they're going to leave it, right?

But nothing that I have seen in the wild so far has made me feel like, oh, this is a worse threat.

These are bigger and scarier losses than any I've seen before.

To me, the access question was always time-limited.

I would imagine Anthropic felt the same way, and that was why they were sort of making the decisions they felt they had to make about who they would give early access to.

But I don't know that I think that's a bad thing, right?

I don't know that I think a world in which

all of the companies large and small, all of the countries large and small have sort of access to roughly the same security capabilities is a much worse one.

I think it depends on how those capabilities are harnessed.

It depends on, again, whether we're able to sort of use them in ways to secure our systems.

I think you could, you know, in keeping with my general view,

clearly extreme optimism in this conversation, right?

You could imagine a world in which it allows for much more geopolitical alliance across these countries if they sort of decide our real enemy is the AI and we all need to work together to make sure our systems are protected against that.

I don't think it's the world we're in right now.

But I also think that there's a huge amount of room for all of these companies in all of these countries to,

to rethink the question of how secure can we make our systems.

There are a variety of ways in which I could imagine this sort of spurring a little bit more, certainly discussion, maybe even cooperation among the countries that have a vested interest in maintaining the stability of the markets, maintaining the stability of critical infrastructure.