Josh (also known as J-Web)

Yep.

And, uh, so, uh, yeah, for those too.

Yeah.

You get an apex or so.

So, so you have options, right?

You can go with the slim line stuff.

And I think that they clear front runners, the canic, as far as what we like, um, the, uh, the, uh,

Compact, so your 4-inch options, we're thinking the M&P, the Echelon.

If you want to go full-size, the 4.5, you get the Echelon full-size.

And now they got the Echelon FC, which is like the full-size grip, compact slide, so like a G45.

Yeah, okay.

So you could do that, or you can get the CZ P10C.

All of those are within the same $500 to $600 range, and you've still got a couple extra bucks to put something on it.

So if you get, let's just say you go down the P10C route, and they come optic cut already, from what I'm looking at on the website right now.

If it's $500, $510, whatever, that leaves you with $350, right?

You can get a pretty good optic for that price that's not a Trijicon.

So go get a HoloSun.

Go get a Gideon of choice.

If you go to Gideon Optics, use JWeb.

Save some money there.