Josh Clark

Because, again, she had a lot of local support and there were a lot of people who were like, she's being persecuted by these Brits.

who are like total out of towners.

And they're being supported by vocal people from the American Medical Association who want only doctors to practice their way.

And basically this woman's being, yeah, persecuted as a witch essentially.

So she did have a lot of supporters, but she had a lot of detractors, too.

It seems like on balance, at least as far as the press is concerned, she was generally viewed as a murderer and a grifter, I guess, a grifting murderer, terrible combination.

Right.

It does sound kind of made up.

Yeah.

And apparently also, I guess Dr. Hazard cut in and was like, I'm going to give Claire one of my famous massages and press down so hard that Claire lost consciousness.

Yeah.

And shortly after that, Dora was told that Claire had died.

And so, yeah, those probably would have been her last words to her that Linda Hazard basically interrupted on purpose.

For sure.

But I mean, it is technically true.

Like you die from your organs failing, but your organs get their vitality from the food that you're not getting.

So it's kind of like potato patato, essentially.

It is very, it's a pretty glib term.

work around, I guess.

But she stood by that.