Josh Dubin

The Center for Appellate Litigation had some amazing people working on his case.

The district attorney of Manhattan agreed to this.

So on paper, even in their personal interactions with him, there was nothing that raised a red flag for anyone.

He didn't let...

Anyone down, if he did this, which people will draw their own conclusion, he'll have a trial.

He didn't let anyone down if he did this but himself and the people that still need help.

And I have to swallow the jagged pill that this work comes with some letdowns.

The recidivism rate for people that have served long sentences like that is less than 1%.

It just happened to happen on a case where I was involved.

I have no... Is it really that low?

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you look at exonerations, resentencings of people that have been incarcerated for more than 20 years, it's that low.

And, you know, the harsh reality is that if you put someone on a public platform and they then do what he supposedly did...

It's going to make headlines.

I realized something, though, that, look, no one could have imagined what's in the dark recesses of that man's soul, whether it's, you know, his group home upbringing and abuse, the prison experience.

It's not to make an excuse.

He did it if he did it.

If he's convicted and he did it, that's on him.

What I'm guilty of is giving a guy a second chance.