Josh Dubin

Why am I reluctant to say this?

I can't apologize for giving someone a second chance and then they squander it.

All I can do is say, what could I have done better?

I mean, I have a deep understanding, I think, of what incarceration means.

I mean, I read this book recently.

I always get his name confused.

Is it Henry Jack Abbott or Jack Henry Abbott?

It's called In the Belly of the Beast when I was in college.

And it's a series of letters that this inmate wrote to Norman Mailer.

Fascinating book.

And.

about what incarceration does to somebody from the standpoint of the practical day-to-day from the deep psychosis-inducing confinement and everything else.

And two days before the book was released and it was reviewed by the New York Times, the guy snapped and killed someone in the East Village.

And no one will know what it is like to be in there.

And again, I don't want to offer this as an excuse, but what it has caused me to do is reevaluate and say, look, maybe I need to take a much closer look at what sort of mental health counseling these folks are getting.

Like Sheldon, I arranged for him to be speaking to a trauma therapist.

Should I have been on him more to be going to those appointments?

Maybe.

I don't know if I'm doing it just because I'm distancing myself from it subconsciously, but I don't know all the circumstances.

But apparently this was someone he knew from childhood and from in prison.