Josh Dubin

Again, none of this is to make an excuse, but I just think that there's a lot more emphasis that I can focus on

assimilation more.

And I think that making sure that they have job training and that they feel safe when they get out... I mean, there hasn't been one person who I've been involved in their case where...

even when they're innocent, they get out and it's a fucking shock.

And I need to be a lot more sensitive to that, I think, and pay a lot more attention to what they're doing, how they're doing.

again i had i had the foresight to put sheldon in touch with and ensure that we were getting him mental health counseling with a trauma therapist but i you know i didn't want to meddle too much in that because it's on him to go so i mean that's where i land um

For better or for worse.

Yeah, you're a lot more forgiving and understanding than a lot of people were and have been about this.

There's been two schools of thought in the reaction.

I mean, I got pretty nasty hate mail, and I got a lot of words of encouragement.

I think the hate mail outweighed the words of encouragement.

Always.

I mean, in substance, number, and probably psychologically.

Yeah.

But that shit just gives me fuel.

If you're sending me, fuck you, you race baiter, you this, you that.

Race baiter?

Oh, yeah.

I got a lot of that.

By telling the truth about the state of race and the criminal justice system in this country.