Josh Dubin

that these men actually didn't do it, there are potential consequences for making it up. And if you're lying now and saying they didn't do it just to help them out, there's consequences for that. So he's quickly told that he's gonna be facing potential perjury charges. So he decides not to testify at that post-conviction hearing. He walks out of the courthouse

that these men actually didn't do it, there are potential consequences for making it up. And if you're lying now and saying they didn't do it just to help them out, there's consequences for that. So he's quickly told that he's gonna be facing potential perjury charges. So he decides not to testify at that post-conviction hearing. He walks out of the courthouse

that these men actually didn't do it, there are potential consequences for making it up. And if you're lying now and saying they didn't do it just to help them out, there's consequences for that. So he's quickly told that he's gonna be facing potential perjury charges. So he decides not to testify at that post-conviction hearing. He walks out of the courthouse

And reporters for the local paper ask him, why didn't you testify what happened? And he says, look, I made the whole thing up. These guys didn't do it, but I'm not going to jail for 25 years.

And reporters for the local paper ask him, why didn't you testify what happened? And he says, look, I made the whole thing up. These guys didn't do it, but I'm not going to jail for 25 years.

And reporters for the local paper ask him, why didn't you testify what happened? And he says, look, I made the whole thing up. These guys didn't do it, but I'm not going to jail for 25 years.

Recap. I was at that hearing. So this is crazy. I found out from Al Cleveland, Al Cleveland spent so much time in prison that he timed out and was paroled. I think he spent close to 30 years in prison. And he approached J.D. and he approached J.D. with his wife.

Recap. I was at that hearing. So this is crazy. I found out from Al Cleveland, Al Cleveland spent so much time in prison that he timed out and was paroled. I think he spent close to 30 years in prison. And he approached J.D. and he approached J.D. with his wife.

Recap. I was at that hearing. So this is crazy. I found out from Al Cleveland, Al Cleveland spent so much time in prison that he timed out and was paroled. I think he spent close to 30 years in prison. And he approached J.D. and he approached J.D. with his wife.

And it turned out that J.D., as a young lawyer, was sitting at that hearing watching it and knew as a young lawyer that there was something terribly wrong. But back to just to get... listeners and viewers up to speed on where we're at. So I came on the show in November, about a week before Thanksgiving. And I laid the case out in finer detail than I just did.

And it turned out that J.D., as a young lawyer, was sitting at that hearing watching it and knew as a young lawyer that there was something terribly wrong. But back to just to get... listeners and viewers up to speed on where we're at. So I came on the show in November, about a week before Thanksgiving. And I laid the case out in finer detail than I just did.

And it turned out that J.D., as a young lawyer, was sitting at that hearing watching it and knew as a young lawyer that there was something terribly wrong. But back to just to get... listeners and viewers up to speed on where we're at. So I came on the show in November, about a week before Thanksgiving. And I laid the case out in finer detail than I just did.

And like I said, if you want more details, you could go to freetheohio4.com and my submission to JD and all the exhibits are there. But that's basically the story as I told it. Yeah. So I had been trying to get in touch with JD because he was running for reelection. He had listed his cell phone number on the internet. So I had a cell phone number and I was...

And like I said, if you want more details, you could go to freetheohio4.com and my submission to JD and all the exhibits are there. But that's basically the story as I told it. Yeah. So I had been trying to get in touch with JD because he was running for reelection. He had listed his cell phone number on the internet. So I had a cell phone number and I was...

And like I said, if you want more details, you could go to freetheohio4.com and my submission to JD and all the exhibits are there. But that's basically the story as I told it. Yeah. So I had been trying to get in touch with JD because he was running for reelection. He had listed his cell phone number on the internet. So I had a cell phone number and I was...

sending him text messages and emails and calling him, and I was getting ghosted. We had communicated for a little bit beforehand. Is that true? No, sir. No, sir. So I couldn't get in touch with him. And then as I'm trying to get in touch with him prior to my coming on the show and speaking to you about it in November, J.D. gets indicted. Oh, excuse me. No, he gets charged by complaint.

sending him text messages and emails and calling him, and I was getting ghosted. We had communicated for a little bit beforehand. Is that true? No, sir. No, sir. So I couldn't get in touch with him. And then as I'm trying to get in touch with him prior to my coming on the show and speaking to you about it in November, J.D. gets indicted. Oh, excuse me. No, he gets charged by complaint.

sending him text messages and emails and calling him, and I was getting ghosted. We had communicated for a little bit beforehand. Is that true? No, sir. No, sir. So I couldn't get in touch with him. And then as I'm trying to get in touch with him prior to my coming on the show and speaking to you about it in November, J.D. gets indicted. Oh, excuse me. No, he gets charged by complaint.

No grand jury. They charge him with three felonies. And I take a look and I see that he's running against someone. And that person that he's running against is posting about the fact that he was charged with three felonies. And I'm like, all right, well, this seems like a political witch hunt. I don't know much about it, but it seems like a tactic.

No grand jury. They charge him with three felonies. And I take a look and I see that he's running against someone. And that person that he's running against is posting about the fact that he was charged with three felonies. And I'm like, all right, well, this seems like a political witch hunt. I don't know much about it, but it seems like a tactic.