Josh Dubin

And he said, you know, I'll never forget what he said to me. He said, you know, if I don't at least agree to meet with you, who am I? And I said, thank you. And he said, I just don't know if there's time, but I owe you at least a meeting. And given what he was going through and what he was up against, and he knew the case well.

And he said, you know, I'll never forget what he said to me. He said, you know, if I don't at least agree to meet with you, who am I? And I said, thank you. And he said, I just don't know if there's time, but I owe you at least a meeting. And given what he was going through and what he was up against, and he knew the case well.

He had had the Ohio Innocence Project had presented to him years earlier, and he knew the case well. So I think he had a sense that there was something really wrong going on.

He had had the Ohio Innocence Project had presented to him years earlier, and he knew the case well. So I think he had a sense that there was something really wrong going on.

He had had the Ohio Innocence Project had presented to him years earlier, and he knew the case well. So I think he had a sense that there was something really wrong going on.

Well, you're going to get to that. The way that J.D. made enemies in Ohio and that town is because he had the audacity. He had the nerve to say, I see two innocent people in another case and I'm going to exonerate them. And that is the beginning of his issues in Ohio. So, I mean, if you want to hear from J.D.

Well, you're going to get to that. The way that J.D. made enemies in Ohio and that town is because he had the audacity. He had the nerve to say, I see two innocent people in another case and I'm going to exonerate them. And that is the beginning of his issues in Ohio. So, I mean, if you want to hear from J.D.

Well, you're going to get to that. The way that J.D. made enemies in Ohio and that town is because he had the audacity. He had the nerve to say, I see two innocent people in another case and I'm going to exonerate them. And that is the beginning of his issues in Ohio. So, I mean, if you want to hear from J.D.

's perspective, because what ensued and what has happened in the months since has been one of the most shocking events. disturbing, frankly, disgusting displays of what I think is ego and abuse of the system, in my opinion, that two of these four men are still in prison.

's perspective, because what ensued and what has happened in the months since has been one of the most shocking events. disturbing, frankly, disgusting displays of what I think is ego and abuse of the system, in my opinion, that two of these four men are still in prison.

's perspective, because what ensued and what has happened in the months since has been one of the most shocking events. disturbing, frankly, disgusting displays of what I think is ego and abuse of the system, in my opinion, that two of these four men are still in prison.

And two of them are only out because they paroled out, but they're on parole as convicted murderers for a crime they didn't commit. So, I mean, I don't know. It'd be interesting to hear J.D. 's perspective on that call. And I then met with him right before Thanksgiving and we had a big rally. In Ohio, Derek Hamilton, who's the deputy director of the Perlmutter Center, was there.

And two of them are only out because they paroled out, but they're on parole as convicted murderers for a crime they didn't commit. So, I mean, I don't know. It'd be interesting to hear J.D. 's perspective on that call. And I then met with him right before Thanksgiving and we had a big rally. In Ohio, Derek Hamilton, who's the deputy director of the Perlmutter Center, was there.

And two of them are only out because they paroled out, but they're on parole as convicted murderers for a crime they didn't commit. So, I mean, I don't know. It'd be interesting to hear J.D. 's perspective on that call. And I then met with him right before Thanksgiving and we had a big rally. In Ohio, Derek Hamilton, who's the deputy director of the Perlmutter Center, was there.

We organized a bunch of folks in the community, a lot of coverage on local news. And then the next day I met with J.D. and his team and presented essentially about a two-hour, three-hour closing argument where I showed him all the evidence in the case.

We organized a bunch of folks in the community, a lot of coverage on local news. And then the next day I met with J.D. and his team and presented essentially about a two-hour, three-hour closing argument where I showed him all the evidence in the case.

We organized a bunch of folks in the community, a lot of coverage on local news. And then the next day I met with J.D. and his team and presented essentially about a two-hour, three-hour closing argument where I showed him all the evidence in the case.

So this is what's going on while I'm trying to get his attention. And I have no fucking idea about any of that. I'm losing my mind.

So this is what's going on while I'm trying to get his attention. And I have no fucking idea about any of that. I'm losing my mind.

So this is what's going on while I'm trying to get his attention. And I have no fucking idea about any of that. I'm losing my mind.