Josh Holmes

Like you could say, I believe in the efficacy of the hep B vaccine.

And you can also say, maybe it's not necessary.

My newborn gets it immediately.

Totally unnecessary.

But like in the nuance of that, you lose it, right?

Because no left wing reporter wants to talk about that because that's way too complicated.

You're either pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine.

Yeah, and I think, Megan, what you were just talking about, what these fellows were just talking about, and the lack of critical context in stories like this over the last few decades has led to an inflection point in media that you're living through, that we're living through, that will continue.

In that, the media used to write the first draft of history, and today it's written by those who are making it.

And that's why this story doesn't bother me at all.

Because I know what Susie Wiles has done for this last year.

she has brought order to a second term that did not exist in the first term and that's what everybody has watched with their own eyes they don't need to read 35 pages from a guy in vanity fair and you know what he's a good writer he's talked to a bunch of chiefs of staff in the past she's a chief of staff she's a history maker what does she have to be afraid of talking to the guy so he lies about her in some story that's 35 pages long okay she knows what the truth is and so does everybody else

And this guy is as talented as he is and as widespread as Vanity Fair is, he doesn't write the truth about Susie Wiles because she is making something very special happen in the White House and nothing can change that.

Yeah.

I mean, come on.

Megan, my kids would call that a 0.5.

And everybody is doing a 0.5 picture of their friends and everybody sees each other's friends in it like a less than favorable light.

The setting on your phone.

It is.

It's a setting on your phone.