Josh Holmes

toast and what a tragedy all around thoughts on these latest developments guys totally horrific tragedy obviously um and another good reminder that nobody is immune to the terrors of drug abuse and you know anybody who's followed this story has known the troubles that nick

His son had had for decades – they made a movie about it back in 2015 where the whole Reiner family was sort of involved in trying to get Nick to tell his story.

And there's a vignette.

I think it was like a Hollywood reporter or something today wrote about how this reporter who was then at the LA Times was basically begged –

by Reiner to cover this story, because he was trying to show that his son has got a better life here, and they're doing this together, and what was a troubled relationship is now moving forward.

And he had his own, as a reporter, his own hesitations about all of that.

Yeah, I found it fascinating.

But I also think like, look,

Reiner, he's an icon.

You don't have to agree or disagree with his politics to understand the impact that he had on movies, on films that we all grew up with, both comedy and drama and all these kind of things.

And so it is sort of shocking as a person in the public, you see something like this happen to.

But again, I think it is a reminder that we've got to take these kind of things seriously.

You know, and that's the scary thing, because there are there are so many Americans who struggle with this that don't have all of the resources of a Reiner family, which only really does have like 20 times.

Right.

Which only really does emphasize how destructive this is to life of a family.

Yeah.

Yeah, no question.

I mean, look, he's a deeply troubled young man, obviously, and drug addiction.

Probably did the paddling on that, but there's probably some psychological issues there too.

I also think you don't know what the lifestyle is like.