Josh Mankiewicz

Now, we do know that whatever happened to Kazar, whatever it was, and that's very murky at this point, we know that Bob wasn't present. We know that Bob had already left at that point. Did Kazar, in some subsequent conversation with her brother, blame Bob for what had happened to her? Or did Nima just kind of take that from her, that inference?

Like, oh, Bob must have had something to do with this. You know, that we're sort of never going to know. The sense that you got from this trial was that she would have said or done just about anything to keep her brother safe. out of prison. I mean, she's on the stand and she says, you know, my brother is not the person that killed Bob Lee. She said that.

Like, oh, Bob must have had something to do with this. You know, that we're sort of never going to know. The sense that you got from this trial was that she would have said or done just about anything to keep her brother safe. out of prison. I mean, she's on the stand and she says, you know, my brother is not the person that killed Bob Lee. She said that.

Well, her brother admits being the person that killed Bob. I mean, that was sort of the problem with her on the stand is he had said, yeah, I did do it, but it was self-defense. That was their defense was he tried to kill me and I ended up stabbing him with his own knife.

Well, her brother admits being the person that killed Bob. I mean, that was sort of the problem with her on the stand is he had said, yeah, I did do it, but it was self-defense. That was their defense was he tried to kill me and I ended up stabbing him with his own knife.

Which is something you don't hear every day. In the end, the question of what happened that night between Kazar and Bob and Jeremy Boivin is is. murky. Jeremy Boivin very explicitly says there was no sexual assault and Kazar later apologized to me. We don't know exactly what happened and we don't know exactly what Kazar said about what happened.

Which is something you don't hear every day. In the end, the question of what happened that night between Kazar and Bob and Jeremy Boivin is is. murky. Jeremy Boivin very explicitly says there was no sexual assault and Kazar later apologized to me. We don't know exactly what happened and we don't know exactly what Kazar said about what happened.

We do know that Bob was not present at the time, which makes that motive, as you said before, really convoluted because it requires that Nima be furious at Bob for something that Bob was not present for. That's the problem with the prosecution motive.

We do know that Bob was not present at the time, which makes that motive, as you said before, really convoluted because it requires that Nima be furious at Bob for something that Bob was not present for. That's the problem with the prosecution motive.

Kazar testified she was heartbroken about Bob's death.

Kazar testified she was heartbroken about Bob's death.

Yeah. Without taking anything away from Oliver, because I completely understand him in this, there was some relationship between Kazar and Bob. I mean, it appears to have not been primarily romantic or sexual. It appears to have been social, and it certainly also connected over drugs. But were they close? They were, because she sent these texts that night.

Yeah. Without taking anything away from Oliver, because I completely understand him in this, there was some relationship between Kazar and Bob. I mean, it appears to have not been primarily romantic or sexual. It appears to have been social, and it certainly also connected over drugs. But were they close? They were, because she sent these texts that night.

after bob died but she didn't know that bob was dead sort of thanking him for handling nema's anger in such a classy way which was a big part of the prosecution's motive was these texts that in which kazar essentially acknowledged nemo was furious at bob and bob calmed nema down so um i i do completely understand where oliver is coming from but the relationship clearly did exist

after bob died but she didn't know that bob was dead sort of thanking him for handling nema's anger in such a classy way which was a big part of the prosecution's motive was these texts that in which kazar essentially acknowledged nemo was furious at bob and bob calmed nema down so um i i do completely understand where oliver is coming from but the relationship clearly did exist

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, no one else has faced charges. I think what Krista is referring to is not just the issue of whether or not evidence was disposed of, but the question of whether

I mean, no one else has faced charges. I think what Krista is referring to is not just the issue of whether or not evidence was disposed of, but the question of whether

Bob and Kazar's relationship and what Kazar said to Nima about what happened that night, which in the eyes of the prosecution and also the Lee family made Nima so angry that he took a knife from Kazar's apartment and then stabbed Bob with it. And so that's why they say that family.