Josh Mankiewicz
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Bob and Kazar's relationship and what Kazar said to Nima about what happened that night, which in the eyes of the prosecution and also the Lee family made Nima so angry that he took a knife from Kazar's apartment and then stabbed Bob with it. And so that's why they say that family.
He was wearing โ when we first met โ well, actually, both times when we met, he was wearing a very expensive suit and some very expensive loafers with a big logo on them. This was a guy โ I mean, look, Sam Zangaday is a guy that if you โ If you are in serious trouble and you have some serious coin, he's the guy you want. So make no mistake about this.
He was wearing โ when we first met โ well, actually, both times when we met, he was wearing a very expensive suit and some very expensive loafers with a big logo on them. This was a guy โ I mean, look, Sam Zangaday is a guy that if you โ If you are in serious trouble and you have some serious coin, he's the guy you want. So make no mistake about this.
They came, I thought, that close to getting a mistrial in this case. They did a very good job. Look, it's fun sparring with guys like that. You'll be doing plenty of that in the months and years ahead.
They came, I thought, that close to getting a mistrial in this case. They did a very good job. Look, it's fun sparring with guys like that. You'll be doing plenty of that in the months and years ahead.
You've got to know the facts of the story before you go in, because people, not everybody, but people are going to try to sell you a different version of it. And, you know, that's sort of part of the job here.
You've got to know the facts of the story before you go in, because people, not everybody, but people are going to try to sell you a different version of it. And, you know, that's sort of part of the job here.
Yeah, I mean, it was long, and many people thought it went past the amount of time that the judge had told the jurors, this is how long the trial will take, including your deliberations. So many people, this reporter included, many people thought this is going to be a mistrial, which would have been... I think a pretty big victory for the defense.
Yeah, I mean, it was long, and many people thought it went past the amount of time that the judge had told the jurors, this is how long the trial will take, including your deliberations. So many people, this reporter included, many people thought this is going to be a mistrial, which would have been... I think a pretty big victory for the defense.
I think that would have been exactly what Sam Zangan wanted. Because look, I mean, in a mistrial, like you've already seen the other guy's hand, you know, you know what cards they have, you know how they're going to. And I don't know that there were that many more ways to present the evidence that the prosecution had presented. I mean, they they put it out there.
I think that would have been exactly what Sam Zangan wanted. Because look, I mean, in a mistrial, like you've already seen the other guy's hand, you know, you know what cards they have, you know how they're going to. And I don't know that there were that many more ways to present the evidence that the prosecution had presented. I mean, they they put it out there.
And the motive was always kind of convoluted. That's one of the harder things to understand. The forensics, they're a little more clear. The video, that's a little bit more clear. You sort of know that Nemo was the last person to see Bob before he was stabbed. But then at the last minute, they came out with a verdict.
And the motive was always kind of convoluted. That's one of the harder things to understand. The forensics, they're a little more clear. The video, that's a little bit more clear. You sort of know that Nemo was the last person to see Bob before he was stabbed. But then at the last minute, they came out with a verdict.
Not guilty of first-degree murder, but guilty of second-degree, which is going to be when he's sentenced, it's a 16-year minimum. I think the prosecution was happy with a 16-year minimum. I think the family sees a measure of justice in this. I mean, here's one interesting thing.
Not guilty of first-degree murder, but guilty of second-degree, which is going to be when he's sentenced, it's a 16-year minimum. I think the prosecution was happy with a 16-year minimum. I think the family sees a measure of justice in this. I mean, here's one interesting thing.
At the beginning of this case, people saw this as, you know, crime is the great equalizer because even the rich can't protect themselves in the streets of San Francisco. And of course, that wasn't what this was about. This wasn't about how much crime there was or wasn't in San Francisco. But in the end,
At the beginning of this case, people saw this as, you know, crime is the great equalizer because even the rich can't protect themselves in the streets of San Francisco. And of course, that wasn't what this was about. This wasn't about how much crime there was or wasn't in San Francisco. But in the end,
The Lee family are like a lot of other families we cover, which is they got the verdict that they wanted, or at least one close enough to it. But they've discovered that the criminal justice system is not a time machine. And whatever happens to Nima Momeni now... This trial, that verdict doesn't bring back Bob Lee. And your life is split in half.
The Lee family are like a lot of other families we cover, which is they got the verdict that they wanted, or at least one close enough to it. But they've discovered that the criminal justice system is not a time machine. And whatever happens to Nima Momeni now... This trial, that verdict doesn't bring back Bob Lee. And your life is split in half.
And in that way, the Lee family is like all the other people that we cover on Dayline, which is there's the part before and then now there's the part after.