Josh Mankiewicz

I mean, that definitely filled in a lot of blanks for investigators on this.

I mean, that definitely filled in a lot of blanks for investigators on this.

Yeah, well, you know, it's one of those assignments that people get within the LAPD and then they never want to leave. It's very kind of high tension and you have access to all this technology that other people don't have access to. I mean, you can do, you know, you can follow people with, you know, drones and trackers and helicopters and all kinds of stuff.

Yeah, well, you know, it's one of those assignments that people get within the LAPD and then they never want to leave. It's very kind of high tension and you have access to all this technology that other people don't have access to. I mean, you can do, you know, you can follow people with, you know, drones and trackers and helicopters and all kinds of stuff.

What an assignment that is. Inside law enforcement, that's known as Perkins. That's from a Supreme Court decision, Perkins v. Illinois, about statements that are made to law enforcement. For example, if you're charged with a crime and you say, I want an attorney and I'm not talking to the police, and then...

What an assignment that is. Inside law enforcement, that's known as Perkins. That's from a Supreme Court decision, Perkins v. Illinois, about statements that are made to law enforcement. For example, if you're charged with a crime and you say, I want an attorney and I'm not talking to the police, and then...

I'm a cop, and they put a jail uniform on me and shove me in there and say to you, hey, you know, I just committed murder. Blaine, what did you do? And you start talking. That frequently will get thrown out because I am the police trying to interrogate you Even though you have said, I'm not talking to the police, which is your right under the constitution.

I'm a cop, and they put a jail uniform on me and shove me in there and say to you, hey, you know, I just committed murder. Blaine, what did you do? And you start talking. That frequently will get thrown out because I am the police trying to interrogate you Even though you have said, I'm not talking to the police, which is your right under the constitution.

So Perkins, the thing they did with Monica in this case is a way around that. And there are very specific rules for what you can and can't say to the person. So. They ran a Perkins operation, and it definitely produced some things, although it did not produce the admission that prosecutors were hoping for, which is Monica admitting, yeah, this was my plan.

So Perkins, the thing they did with Monica in this case is a way around that. And there are very specific rules for what you can and can't say to the person. So. They ran a Perkins operation, and it definitely produced some things, although it did not produce the admission that prosecutors were hoping for, which is Monica admitting, yeah, this was my plan.

The only thing that came out of that was she admitted the affair, and she gave some sense of how –

The only thing that came out of that was she admitted the affair, and she gave some sense of how –

into baker she was to me the smoking gun piece of audio in this it's when baker and monica are in the patrol car and they've just been pulled over and arrested when they were out driving in monica's nice mustang and they put them both in the back of a police car and a lot of police cars um um a lot of black and whites are i think wired for sound and video but they did get monica whispering to baker which you saw in our episode and she says somebody must

into baker she was to me the smoking gun piece of audio in this it's when baker and monica are in the patrol car and they've just been pulled over and arrested when they were out driving in monica's nice mustang and they put them both in the back of a police car and a lot of police cars um um a lot of black and whites are i think wired for sound and video but they did get monica whispering to baker which you saw in our episode and she says somebody must

have talked okay innocent people do not say somebody must have talked innocent people say what are we doing here why would they think we would have anything to do with this this is insane right somebody must have talked about what you know that's the yeah yes that that to me that's the smoking gun here absolutely is and who did they tell yeah

have talked okay innocent people do not say somebody must have talked innocent people say what are we doing here why would they think we would have anything to do with this this is insane right somebody must have talked about what you know that's the yeah yes that that to me that's the smoking gun here absolutely is and who did they tell yeah

His relationship with Monica began as an affair. Thought he was married at the time, right? So she was having an affair with a married guy, which was him, right? There are people who will say neither one of those people should trust each other because they're willing to have an affair. And if they did it before, they will do it with you.

His relationship with Monica began as an affair. Thought he was married at the time, right? So she was having an affair with a married guy, which was him, right? There are people who will say neither one of those people should trust each other because they're willing to have an affair. And if they did it before, they will do it with you.

And I don't think that is necessarily true because sometimes people meet the right person and they did seem extremely happy together. But yes, they began as an affair. And that's what ended the relationship with Luigi's mom.

And I don't think that is necessarily true because sometimes people meet the right person and they did seem extremely happy together. But yes, they began as an affair. And that's what ended the relationship with Luigi's mom.