Josh Mankiewicz

The hairstylist's fan, thus corroborating what she said. She did not embellish her statement trying to help police unconsciously, which people sometimes do. She actually saw what she said she saw, and there's the proof. I mean, that is a little tiny window into how... Investigating homicides have changed. I mean, 50 years ago, pretty much none of that existed.

The hairstylist's fan, thus corroborating what she said. She did not embellish her statement trying to help police unconsciously, which people sometimes do. She actually saw what she said she saw, and there's the proof. I mean, that is a little tiny window into how... Investigating homicides have changed. I mean, 50 years ago, pretty much none of that existed.

There was some security video, but it wasn't being recorded. You know, maybe it was a live camera that somebody was watching from another place. I mean, closed circuit TV has been around for a while, but not the kind of stuff that you have here and not people's doorbell cameras and not all the other...

There was some security video, but it wasn't being recorded. You know, maybe it was a live camera that somebody was watching from another place. I mean, closed circuit TV has been around for a while, but not the kind of stuff that you have here and not people's doorbell cameras and not all the other...

things that they have, not the ability to track a cell phone or to look up a car's license or registration, you know, like that. Those things didn't exist. And that made this case possible to break. Finding that little tiny snippet of her ponytail bobbing as she ran, that told you, we don't have to worry about everything before that on her run. No, not at all.

things that they have, not the ability to track a cell phone or to look up a car's license or registration, you know, like that. Those things didn't exist. And that made this case possible to break. Finding that little tiny snippet of her ponytail bobbing as she ran, that told you, we don't have to worry about everything before that on her run. No, not at all.

Every other place she was that we don't I don't need to go back there because it didn't happen there. It happened later. And that that's a huge help.

Every other place she was that we don't I don't need to go back there because it didn't happen there. It happened later. And that that's a huge help.

Yes, they go out and they buy a new phone and they connect it to her account.

Yes, they go out and they buy a new phone and they connect it to her account.

Thus being able to essentially clone it, I guess.

Thus being able to essentially clone it, I guess.

It depends on what kind of phone you have. It depends on what kind of first of all, whether they build the people know the password. That's that's a huge thing.

It depends on what kind of phone you have. It depends on what kind of first of all, whether they build the people know the password. That's that's a huge thing.

And in this case, you know, it wasn't as probative as it otherwise might have been because, you know, you're looking on the phone and what you want to see is a text from the killer saying, hey, why don't you meet me at such and such a place at 6 p.m., right? And there wasn't anything like that.

And in this case, you know, it wasn't as probative as it otherwise might have been because, you know, you're looking on the phone and what you want to see is a text from the killer saying, hey, why don't you meet me at such and such a place at 6 p.m., right? And there wasn't anything like that.

But the absence of someone saying, please meet me, gave them a sort of alternative theory of the crime, which was that this was essentially random. This wasn't somebody she knew. This wasn't somebody she was headed to meet. What that says to investigators is this was unplanned.

But the absence of someone saying, please meet me, gave them a sort of alternative theory of the crime, which was that this was essentially random. This wasn't somebody she knew. This wasn't somebody she was headed to meet. What that says to investigators is this was unplanned.

Right. You know, when she's going 60 miles an hour, obviously she's in a car there. Is she alive at that point? Is she with her phone at that point? Because we only know the phone is going 60 miles an hour. So that doesn't necessarily mean she's with it. But in this case, I think it did. So, I mean, those are all things that investigators have to think about while they're looking at that data.

Right. You know, when she's going 60 miles an hour, obviously she's in a car there. Is she alive at that point? Is she with her phone at that point? Because we only know the phone is going 60 miles an hour. So that doesn't necessarily mean she's with it. But in this case, I think it did. So, I mean, those are all things that investigators have to think about while they're looking at that data.