Josh Mankiewicz

I think he was just stunned.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, and, you know, not only that, not only did the sheriff's office listen to that 911 call and think the boyfriend doesn't sound frantic enough, they also, on their first interview with Jason McDermott, thought, this is this, like, little rabid-y guy who owns a cat.

This is not our murderer.

And they were wrong both ways.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean, that's certainly what the sheriff— As I say that with my cat on my lap.

Well, first of all, you're not a single guy.

You know, I'm not sure that that theory, I'm not sure you disprove that theory.

But, you know, that wasn't my theory.

That was the Stark County Sheriff's Office that thought, this guy, this guy is not a killer.

Do you like cats, Josh?

I'm a dog person.

I say that having no pets.

When I retire, I'm going to get a dog.

But until then, I travel too much, and I don't think that would be fair to the dog.

How many pets do you guys have?

There's a, uh, there was a great, there was a great documentary about the 1986 Mets in which they interviewed Keith Hernandez.