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Talking Dateline: Breaking Point

13 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened to Morgan Fox in 2020?

0.52 - 22.478 Kate Snow

Hi, it's Kate Snow, NBC News anchor, host of the podcast, The Drink. This month, I'm grabbing a matcha latte with comedian Taylor Tomlinson. The Drink is always about someone's journey to the top, and Taylor's story is remarkable. She tells us all about her unlikely path from performing in churches all the way to headlining her own Netflix specials like her latest, Prodigal Daughter.

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22.458 - 32.502 Kate Snow

And she opens up about her religious upbringing, what drew her to stand up, and how she feels when she gets on that stage. Hope you'll listen and follow The Drink wherever you get your podcasts.

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33.899 - 36.463 Craig Melvin

I'm Craig Melvin. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.

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Chapter 2: What were the circumstances surrounding Morgan's death?

36.483 - 57.974 Craig Melvin

I've always been a glass half full kind of guy. And now I'm talking to some people who look at the world that way too. Some really fascinating folks who share their defining moments, their triumphs, their challenges. Their stories are funny and quite candid. So I hope you'll join me each week. And who knows? You might just come away with your own glass half full.

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57.994 - 62.961 Unknown

Search Glass Half Full with Craig Melvin from today on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts.

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69.202 - 70.965 Andrea Canning

Hey, everyone. It's Andrea Canning.

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Chapter 3: How did workplace dynamics contribute to Morgan's situation?

71.426 - 92.56 Andrea Canning

And today we are talking Dateline and we're talking about Josh's episode Breaking Point. So Josh Mankiewicz, hello. Hello. If you haven't watched the episode yet, you can find it right below this one or stream it now on Peacock. So go there and do that. And when you come back, we'll have more from Josh's interview with the man convicted of killing Morgan Fox.

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92.66 - 103.242 Andrea Canning

And later we'll answer some of your questions from social media. Okay, Josh, before we dive into this episode, just give us a quick summary of this episode.

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103.846 - 109.534 Josh Mankiewicz

Sure. This happened back in late 2020 in North Canton, Ohio.

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Chapter 4: What evidence did investigators find against the suspect?

110.275 - 136.71 Josh Mankiewicz

And, you know, a young woman did not show up for her shift at a FedEx warehouse sorting facility, which was unlike her. She was 29 years old. Name was Morgan Fox. She got up in the middle of the night to go to work. She worked the early shift and she'd been shot dead immediately. as she was getting into her car in the driveway. Now, nothing was stolen. This wasn't a robbery.

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136.73 - 147.824 Josh Mankiewicz

This was very clearly an attempt to stalk and kill her. And so the Stark County Sheriff's Office began investigating whether she had any enemies.

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Chapter 5: What was revealed in the exclusive interview with the killer?

148.545 - 156.094 Josh Mankiewicz

And this is the story of that investigation and sort of how it played out and how it got to the end.

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156.344 - 184.005 Andrea Canning

Coincidentally, right before I started watching your episode yesterday, I was driving to the Memphis airport and I see FedEx plane after FedEx plane after FedEx plane. And I'm like, I looked it up. I didn't even realize Memphis is the hub, the FedEx hub, even though your story's in Ohio. But it was kind of strange given the fact that

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183.985 - 191.361 Andrea Canning

I was just about to watch your story when I was just inundated with FedEx airplanes.

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191.381 - 210.396 Josh Mankiewicz

Right. Yeah, I mean, it's a, you know, they've got those sorting facilities all over the country. And it's, you know, this is not a... we have no information that whatever this issue was at the North Canton facility, that it was anything more than particular to that facility.

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Chapter 6: How did Morgan's daughter impact the court proceedings?

210.456 - 228.724 Josh Mankiewicz

But the, the atmosphere at that facility was likened to a frat house, to a boys club, a place where women felt uncomfortable and sort of a lot of Morgan Fox's problems began when she got promoted from the line to manager. And, uh,

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228.704 - 253.092 Josh Mankiewicz

There was a sort of a campaign of, you know, I don't know whether you'd call it harassment or bullying, but it was a campaign of making her life just a little bit more difficult. I mean, not only were there a couple of guys there hitting on her. I'm not talking about that. but like they would take her chair and hide it, you know, her workstation chair. That's not good.

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253.433 - 259.109 Josh Mankiewicz

You know, they would take her clipboard, which, you know, she needed to do her job.

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259.51 - 279.67 Andrea Canning

So, you know, Josh, right out of the gate, Yeah, yeah.

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Chapter 7: What insights do the hosts share about victim impact statements?

280.105 - 301.99 Josh Mankiewicz

Stuff is going to happen, for better or worse. Stuff's going to happen. You put a bunch of people in. You add some pressure. You have everybody working together on what's supposed to be a common goal. And they're going to rate each other. They're going to date each other. They're going to hate each other. That is sort of human nature that some of that's going to happen.

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302.091 - 308.458 Andrea Canning

I will just say to you, Josh, on a side note, working at Dateline –

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Chapter 8: What questions did listeners have about the case?

309.248 - 328.742 Andrea Canning

You and Keith, I've been here almost, what, like 14 years now. You and Keith welcomed me with open arms. And you really are the best colleagues. So we're very lucky that we work in an environment at Dateline that is really just a wonderful place to be.

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328.722 - 361.511 Josh Mankiewicz

And that's always been, you know, I've been in this business more than 50 years now. And, yeah. Really? Yeah, it's 50. You don't look it, Josh. I know. Well, it's 50 Earth years, not the kind of, yeah, not the way other people measure them. Yeah. And over that time, Dateline is without question the best place I've worked in terms of the harmony among the staff members.

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362.192 - 375.672 Josh Mankiewicz

But I'm glad that you said that and thank you. See, it's funny. I just remember Keith stealing your chair and clipboard. But okay, maybe I'm remembering wrong.

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378.352 - 401.271 Andrea Canning

Yeah, that did not happen, Mr. Funny Guy. So, you know, one of the things that was said about Jason, the boyfriend, right, about Morgan's boyfriend, was that he didn't sound right or he didn't sound frantic enough or whatever. It's funny because I kind of disagree. To me, he sort of sounded like somebody in shock, right?

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402.938 - 426.111 Josh Mankiewicz

Right. Well, I think we now know that's exactly what he was. When the sheriff's office, you know, first listened to that 911 call, they thought, and, you know, I mean, this is true. 911 calls get evaluated just like, you know, the homicide investigator is always very judgmental of what that first 911 call sounds like. Does it sound right? Does it sound forced? Is it staged?

426.091 - 439.138 Josh Mankiewicz

And so they were looking at that pretty closely. And they thought Jason Skarnacki had sounded too flat. But yeah, I think you're right. I think he was just stunned.

439.338 - 441.363 Andrea Canning

Yeah. And who wouldn't be, right?

441.603 - 464.535 Josh Mankiewicz

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and, you know, not only that, not only did the sheriff's office listen to that 911 call and think the boyfriend doesn't sound frantic enough, they also, on their first interview with Jason McDermott, thought, this is this, like, little rabid-y guy who owns a cat. This is not our murderer. And they were wrong both ways. Yeah.

465.781 - 473.199 Andrea Canning

Right. And I actually quoted you here in my notes. Single guys with cats don't commit murder.

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