Josh Owens

Why was I there?

Why did I do these things?

Why did I stick around for so long?

I don't have all the answers now.

But I think exploring it and asking those questions and taking accountability was just sort of part of the process.

It happened in that exact liminal space between me being offered the job and me starting the job.

And I think, you know, if I'm being honest, so much of my mind was just focused on moving to a new place and I wasn't paying attention to those things.

The reason I don't write much about that in the book is because I didn't really have much connection with that.

I never worked on reports about Sandy Hook.

I really didn't even notice the gravity of it until it started.

Hillary Clinton called Jones out in the 2016 election, and she said, how dark does someone's heart have to be to tell the stories that Jones did to spread those narratives?

you would think most people would hear that and they would be horrified by it but jones was literally prancing around the office calling himself dark heart but it wasn't until that was you know there were people covering that story talking to the family members they were recounting their experiences that i realized the gravity of that situation and you know looking back at it i think

How many instances are we not seeing where that occurred?

Because if Jones said everything was a false flag, if Jones made his listeners question these things, how many Sandy Hooks are there that maybe won't go to court, that maybe won't get the attention?

How many lives have been affected by his rhetoric?

Truthfully, I dipped in and out of thinking about leaving.

from pretty early on.

The turning point, I guess, or at least the beginning of the turning point, is that when we went on that Islamberg trip, we were telling lies and making stories up and basically just trying to do a good job for our boss, the social implications be damned.

And on the flight back, there was a woman with a Muslim woman with a young girl and the girl was sitting in my row and she asked if I could move away from the window seat and give her the window seat.

And so I said, yes.