Josh Owens

thousands of submissions.

I got in the top 10, the final round.

And Jones, I later learned Jones didn't believe I quite had what it took to be a reporter, thank God.

So he hired me as a video editor and camera operator initially.

That was his intro into that world.

You know, Jones' connection with Rogan goes back pretty far actually.

The guy –

Kevin Booth, who was connected to the comedian Bill Hicks, he produced some of Jones' early documentaries and also produced Joe Rogan's very first comedy special.

So there's a weird – I think that's how they got connected.

But Jones saw that it was a profitable, successful endeavor for Rogan and saw it as an option for himself.

Well, when I first started working there, especially when I first started listening to Jones, it was 2008 when I first heard of him.

He would sell T-shirts.

He would sell DVDs.

But he would also encourage his audience to copy the DVDs and give them out for free.

I, in my naive state, saw that as like, well, OK.

I mean it's not about money.

It's got to be about the ideas.

I think that just – Jones saw that as free advertising ultimately.

But I started working there as soon as he started the supplements.

And it wasn't gradual.