Josh Waitzkin

It's like the worst, like, and then it gets increasingly subtle, right? But like, as my opponent said, Oh, he's unhappy, take the pawn, then you and then your opponent see it. And then you learn, you know, those things keep on the circles get smaller and smaller and tighter and tighter and more and more refined.

Well, I'm really grateful for my early chess life. And I also would never choose to put that on my children. I mean, it worked out really well for me. I mean, I have my wounds, right? I mean, there's lots of things that I've had to grapple with. But I think if you put a lot of children through the pressures that I went through, it wouldn't work out well.

Well, I'm really grateful for my early chess life. And I also would never choose to put that on my children. I mean, it worked out really well for me. I mean, I have my wounds, right? I mean, there's lots of things that I've had to grapple with. But I think if you put a lot of children through the pressures that I went through, it wouldn't work out well.

Well, I'm really grateful for my early chess life. And I also would never choose to put that on my children. I mean, it worked out really well for me. I mean, I have my wounds, right? I mean, there's lots of things that I've had to grapple with. But I think if you put a lot of children through the pressures that I went through, it wouldn't work out well.

And I watched a lot of my young, I mean, almost all my young rivals, or I mean, like very close to all of my young rivals ended up quitting and falling into crisis. And, you know, then you have parents and coaches who are expressing their own egoic needs through the children and the children are shouldering that. And then that becomes very difficult to deal with.

And I watched a lot of my young, I mean, almost all my young rivals, or I mean, like very close to all of my young rivals ended up quitting and falling into crisis. And, you know, then you have parents and coaches who are expressing their own egoic needs through the children and the children are shouldering that. And then that becomes very difficult to deal with.

And I watched a lot of my young, I mean, almost all my young rivals, or I mean, like very close to all of my young rivals ended up quitting and falling into crisis. And, you know, then you have parents and coaches who are expressing their own egoic needs through the children and the children are shouldering that. And then that becomes very difficult to deal with.

And then you're dealing with heartbreak and you're putting everything on the line and you're losing and you're dealing with your own self-doubts. The heartbreak of your mother and your father and your coach and your friends. I mean, there are so many. And then as the pressures get more and more intense in chess, like you really are putting your heart and soul on the line through that chessboard.

And then you're dealing with heartbreak and you're putting everything on the line and you're losing and you're dealing with your own self-doubts. The heartbreak of your mother and your father and your coach and your friends. I mean, there are so many. And then as the pressures get more and more intense in chess, like you really are putting your heart and soul on the line through that chessboard.

And then you're dealing with heartbreak and you're putting everything on the line and you're losing and you're dealing with your own self-doubts. The heartbreak of your mother and your father and your coach and your friends. I mean, there are so many. And then as the pressures get more and more intense in chess, like you really are putting your heart and soul on the line through that chessboard.

In casual games, let alone in national and world championships. And you're being shattered when you lose. I was shattered many times over. I mean, I lost last rounds of national chess championships and world championships multiple times over. And those were the greatest moments of my life in retrospect. They taught me. the most important lessons of my life. I would never take it back.

In casual games, let alone in national and world championships. And you're being shattered when you lose. I was shattered many times over. I mean, I lost last rounds of national chess championships and world championships multiple times over. And those were the greatest moments of my life in retrospect. They taught me. the most important lessons of my life. I would never take it back.

In casual games, let alone in national and world championships. And you're being shattered when you lose. I was shattered many times over. I mean, I lost last rounds of national chess championships and world championships multiple times over. And those were the greatest moments of my life in retrospect. They taught me. the most important lessons of my life. I would never take it back.

And that's a pattern in my chess life and my fight life and everything I've gone through. The most heartbreaking, devastating moments ultimately were the ones that catalyzed the most growth. And they were beautiful. And I really relate to them that way. But they also can be brutal for young minds and they can destroy people.

And that's a pattern in my chess life and my fight life and everything I've gone through. The most heartbreaking, devastating moments ultimately were the ones that catalyzed the most growth. And they were beautiful. And I really relate to them that way. But they also can be brutal for young minds and they can destroy people.

And that's a pattern in my chess life and my fight life and everything I've gone through. The most heartbreaking, devastating moments ultimately were the ones that catalyzed the most growth. And they were beautiful. And I really relate to them that way. But they also can be brutal for young minds and they can destroy people.

Yeah, it's a great question. Yeah. Well, I think the study you sent me yesterday speaks to this.

Yeah, it's a great question. Yeah. Well, I think the study you sent me yesterday speaks to this.

Yeah, it's a great question. Yeah. Well, I think the study you sent me yesterday speaks to this.

Yeah, maybe I'll answer that question experientially. Maybe you could then talk about the study and we can riff on it a little bit. This is so much fun, by the way, because I've lived my life in the arena, just like pushing myself. I'm not a scientist, but I'm like my own laboratory. You said to me yesterday at the game, like,