Josh Waitzkin

Yeah, maybe I'll answer that question experientially. Maybe you could then talk about the study and we can riff on it a little bit. This is so much fun, by the way, because I've lived my life in the arena, just like pushing myself. I'm not a scientist, but I'm like my own laboratory. You said to me yesterday at the game, like,

Yeah, maybe I'll answer that question experientially. Maybe you could then talk about the study and we can riff on it a little bit. This is so much fun, by the way, because I've lived my life in the arena, just like pushing myself. I'm not a scientist, but I'm like my own laboratory. You said to me yesterday at the game, like,

I think the way that I, like if I think about the most painful losses of my life, the most devastating injuries of my life. I think about dying, drowning. I drowned on the bottom of doing hypoxic breath work in a pool. I was on the bottom of the pool four and a half minutes after that. It led to arguably the best decision of my life to move into the jungle.

I think the way that I, like if I think about the most painful losses of my life, the most devastating injuries of my life. I think about dying, drowning. I drowned on the bottom of doing hypoxic breath work in a pool. I was on the bottom of the pool four and a half minutes after that. It led to arguably the best decision of my life to move into the jungle.

I think the way that I, like if I think about the most painful losses of my life, the most devastating injuries of my life. I think about dying, drowning. I drowned on the bottom of doing hypoxic breath work in a pool. I was on the bottom of the pool four and a half minutes after that. It led to arguably the best decision of my life to move into the jungle.

I think about losing the last round of the Under-18 World Chess Championship on the first board. That's a very interesting story I could describe a little bit. Or I think about my first national championship I lost when I was seven, eight, first board, last round, just unobstructed learning until then. And then I lost the last round for the title. Fell into an opening trap.

I think about losing the last round of the Under-18 World Chess Championship on the first board. That's a very interesting story I could describe a little bit. Or I think about my first national championship I lost when I was seven, eight, first board, last round, just unobstructed learning until then. And then I lost the last round for the title. Fell into an opening trap.

I think about losing the last round of the Under-18 World Chess Championship on the first board. That's a very interesting story I could describe a little bit. Or I think about my first national championship I lost when I was seven, eight, first board, last round, just unobstructed learning until then. And then I lost the last round for the title. Fell into an opening trap.

Like that's the loss that was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. You were how old? I think I'd just turned eight or maybe I was late seven. And like that was, it was, because if I had won that game, I would, I easily could have associated winning with just no pain, no heart, just cruising up into the end. That was the moment that like I got my ass kicked.

Like that's the loss that was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. You were how old? I think I'd just turned eight or maybe I was late seven. And like that was, it was, because if I had won that game, I would, I easily could have associated winning with just no pain, no heart, just cruising up into the end. That was the moment that like I got my ass kicked.

Like that's the loss that was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. You were how old? I think I'd just turned eight or maybe I was late seven. And like that was, it was, because if I had won that game, I would, I easily could have associated winning with just no pain, no heart, just cruising up into the end. That was the moment that like I got my ass kicked.

I had to go back, you know, deal with these demons, come back, train for the next year. And then I won the next year and then it was off to the races. my life might look very different if I'd won that game. And actually, the kid who beat me in that game, David Arnett, became, two years later, we became best friends. For all of our childhood, we were on the same chess team and best friends.

I had to go back, you know, deal with these demons, come back, train for the next year. And then I won the next year and then it was off to the races. my life might look very different if I'd won that game. And actually, the kid who beat me in that game, David Arnett, became, two years later, we became best friends. For all of our childhood, we were on the same chess team and best friends.

I had to go back, you know, deal with these demons, come back, train for the next year. And then I won the next year and then it was off to the races. my life might look very different if I'd won that game. And actually, the kid who beat me in that game, David Arnett, became, two years later, we became best friends. For all of our childhood, we were on the same chess team and best friends.

And I think he gave me the greatest gift of my competitive life by kicking my ass that game. The most devastating loss of my chess life Was – so I was 17 years old. I was competing in the world under 18 chess championship in Szeged, Hungary. Every – so every year there's another 12, 14, 16, 18, 21 world championship and I was always representing the US in those tournaments around the world and I –

And I think he gave me the greatest gift of my competitive life by kicking my ass that game. The most devastating loss of my chess life Was – so I was 17 years old. I was competing in the world under 18 chess championship in Szeged, Hungary. Every – so every year there's another 12, 14, 16, 18, 21 world championship and I was always representing the US in those tournaments around the world and I –

And I think he gave me the greatest gift of my competitive life by kicking my ass that game. The most devastating loss of my chess life Was – so I was 17 years old. I was competing in the world under 18 chess championship in Szeged, Hungary. Every – so every year there's another 12, 14, 16, 18, 21 world championship and I was always representing the US in those tournaments around the world and I –

travel to India or Brazil or Hungary or Germany or somewhere and compete in the world championship. And under 18 Worlds, I played the tournament. I just was playing very inspired chess. I had just picked up On the Road three weeks before Jack Kerouac. I had become – I was just on fire with Kerouac's vision and I was –

travel to India or Brazil or Hungary or Germany or somewhere and compete in the world championship. And under 18 Worlds, I played the tournament. I just was playing very inspired chess. I had just picked up On the Road three weeks before Jack Kerouac. I had become – I was just on fire with Kerouac's vision and I was –

travel to India or Brazil or Hungary or Germany or somewhere and compete in the world championship. And under 18 Worlds, I played the tournament. I just was playing very inspired chess. I had just picked up On the Road three weeks before Jack Kerouac. I had become – I was just on fire with Kerouac's vision and I was –