Josh Weisberg

We had a team of five.

Total?

Total.

And we built so much product with those five people that we were able to basically punch way above our weight.

And now as we develop the business, if we hadn't ended up at Zender,

Of course, we would have had to invest in some of these things and we would have needed to do marketing.

You do need to do that at some point.

But we were able to keep stay so close to the customer and build so much product that then, you know, we kind of had options around that.

So so payback period, we never worried too much about that, given where we were as a business, because basically we were getting word of mouth.

Yeah, and we had core expenses, and we were all stretched really thin.

You can't do that forever, and that was a consideration.

So we were one-man armies heading up different divisions, each of us.

And I should say we went through to get to those five people.

we probably went through at least 10 people.

So it was this thing where we needed the right people in place to be able to run with that model.

But that's how we got profitable and that's how we ended up with auctions.

Yeah, so my co-founder, Dhruv.

Yeah, so Dhruv Mehta worked with me at Getaround.

It was just him though, right?

Nobody else?