Joshua Citarella

You mentioned that some people test the parentheses of the Overton window and...

that presumably is like, if you're pushing that, is that really where your opinion lies?

Or are you just playing with words and images to see what sort of a reaction occurs?

So how do you work out whether or not somebody is being earnest and how do you work out what this is going to form itself into over time?

I mean, man, Poe's lore is very fucking Poe-y now.

How do you know that

Young people always blow off steam, right?

Whether it was when we were going to school and somebody just writing something reprehensible, you know, scoring it with a compass on the underside of the desk or something like that.

Is this markedly different?

Is there like more meaning behind this?

I don't want to say that your entire body of work is you looking at compass etchings on the underside of a desk.

It's not dissimilar.

A good amount of it will be, and you're sort of trawling through this stuff.

looking for what this is an important indication of what's going to come next.

And just trying to work out, okay, well, how do you decipher between those two?

That's fascinating.

What are then the ideologies that are in ascendancy that aren't

neo-anarcho-capitalist-monarchistic, like fucking paganism or whatever it is.

What are the ones, I mentioned who are some of the people that are maybe sort of in the ascendancy, what are some of the ideas that you think are going to be important over the next few years?

People love to talk about how the left got lost.