Joshua Citarella

What's your perspective on that?

I think when at least most normal people consider sort of radicalization, they think about far right, uh, people that are armed, uh, Charlottesville almost certainly would come up as one of those examples.

And then there was almost a, um, chicken and egg, like you did X. So we're going to do Y calling out of look at Antifa, look at black block, look at sort of the way that people behave through BLM riots, protests, et cetera.

Uh,

given that you've done your deep dives, just how sort of dark does the left go?

I think we have a pretty good, it's one of, you know, Jordan Peterson's famous questions, which is we understand when the right has gone too far.

Sort of easy for us to define that.

We have kind of some canonical examples of that.

What have you learned about sort of the darker, more extreme sides of the left, just beyond like boys and girls locker rooms and stuff like that?

And I find that to be quite disastrous.

Yeah.

That's interesting.

Kind of political nihilism.

So at least one of the more extreme sides of this has to do with the environment.

It has to do with the future of the world from an environmental perspective.

Is that right?

Is it correct?

We're interested in climate as soon as climate comes into contact with immigration.

Exactly, exactly.

Right, that's interesting.