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Joshua Greene

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
894 total appearances

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Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And individuals cooperate with each other in small groups, in tribes, in chiefdoms, in nations, occasionally in United Nations.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

Every level, from molecules up to nations in the UN, it's about parts coming together that can accomplish more together than they can accomplish separately, and that's why they work.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

Now, it's not all like unicorns and rainbows, that the units are competing with each other at each level.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

So it's cooperation and competition at increasing levels of complexity.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

That, in a nutshell, is the story of life on Earth.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And so, from a biological point of view, the way to bring people together is to have them be on the same team.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

Social scientists, and I'm partly a social scientist in addition to being a philosopher, reached the same conclusion.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And this goes back to Gordon Alport, who sat in the building that I sit in now in the 1950s and developed what's called the contact hypothesis, which is the idea that if you want to break down barriers between races, between people of different religions, they need to

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

be in touch with each other, and it needs to be in a cooperative sort of way.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

That's not exactly how he put it.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

His contemporaries, Sharif and Sharif, explicitly talked about kids at a summer camp who were either put on separate teams and made to fight with each other, or they had to team up to pull the truck out of the mud, and came to the same conclusion there, sort of compatible with this idea.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

So I was like, okay, if the biologists and the social scientists have all known that cooperation, teamwork, like this is the heart of it, why haven't we solved this yet?

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And there have been lots of

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

historical cases where this point has been made.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

So when people were first, in World War II, were first talking about integrating the US military, a lot of people, you will never get white people and black people to fight in the same unit.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And they had people making these dire predictions of like people turning on each other in the ranks, right?

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And instead what they found was that these integrated units worked great.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

And it really changed people's racial attitudes.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

Because when you put people on the same team and their lives are at stake and there's a job to get done, they not only do the job, but they become like brothers, right?

Ologies with Alie Ward
Trolleyology (MORAL DILEMMAS + THE TROLLEY PROBLEM) with Joshua Greene

Or sisters, as the case may be.