Judd Apatow

And Chris Rock was on there.

And, you know, you want to be part of the club.

And for me, I had to acknowledge that, oh, I'm not going to get in that way.

And so I created a sketch show with Ben Stiller, the Ben Stiller show, around the same time, which was a reaction to the fact that I couldn't get a job at Saturday Night Live.

Even though I was helping Jim Carrey write sketches for Living Color, I couldn't get hired in Living Color.

And so, you know, me and Ben Carrey, we created a show and suddenly we had a show on Fox and...

It was like, okay, I can't do that, but I can do it here.

And my path is just gonna be a completely different path.

And that's totally fine and kind of great in a way.

But I also think, oh man, I missed out on so much fun.

You know, I missed out on like being in the SNL offices and having that camaraderie and that family.

Yeah, and then you wanted to be creating your own crew.

Because now I realize that as a kid, part of the fantasy of it was

the people from SCTV or Monty Python or Saturday Night Live, they were these little families.

And that was the thing you wanted to be a part of.

Like, oh my God, can you imagine if you were part of one of those?

And so in a way we, you know, in different time periods, you know, created our own.

Well, and it's also the heartbreak of show business, which is, you know, you make a movie, everyone gets close, and it's over.

And then you make a TV show and maybe do it for, maybe make one, maybe do it for a couple of years, and then it's over.

And so you're constantly having all your groups dissolve.