Judd Apatow

And that's its own kind of mental stress that I never thought about until years later.

Like, what is depressing about this?

It's because, you know, you fall in love with everybody and you're having this creative experience and friendship experience.

And then everyone heads off in other directions.

And that's a weird thing to experience a lot in your life.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

And that was a tough one for me.

And I didn't realize that that was what was happening, that I was just trying to keep everyone together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I, you know, I realized I only got in it for the connection because when I was a kid and I was into comedy, no one liked comedy.

There wasn't another kid into it at the school.

And so I dreamed that there would be a place where there would be people like me.

And then there were people like me when I moved to Los Angeles.

And that...

I almost wanted to get in the business for that connection, even more than the love of comedy was, you know, what, what is the language I can speak with, with my tribe?

And, but all that is unconscious.

Then years later, like when you're depressed about something, you're like, why is this so intense?

You don't know.