Judy Faulkner

Can't do the last two.

So it's only grow its market share and remain a competitive vendor, which I hope it will do both of those.

Well, only possible if the laws change somehow.

But in today's law, it's pretty well structured so that that can't happen.

My stock is divided into two parts, the value and the vote.

The value gets given for charitable purposes.

The voting side goes to the Purpose Trust, and the Purpose Trust has two groups who vote my stock, my family members and Epic staff.

Yes, but they're not the voting of my stock.

I've got four family members and succession plans and five Epic company members and succession plans.

They get to vote following my rules of here's what you have to do.

You can never vote to go public.

You can never vote to be acquires.

And there's a whole bunch of other things.

You can't create new stock, which gets over those rules.

A lot of different things to make sure that it's all followed.

Then we have three CEOs from our CEO council, which meets once a year.

Can you say who they are?

We just changed who they are, so I can't yet because I don't have their names in front of me.

But they're people who volunteered to do this, and we're very interested in doing it.

Their job is to take anyone to court who doesn't vote according to the rules.