Judyth Vary Baker

Lee was on the first floor.

Lee was on the first floor.

Yeah, and we have pretty good evidence of that. What they didn't know is they tried to put him on the second floor. That's where the whites ate their lunch. Lee Oswald, remember I told you he got arrested in New Orleans on the 9th and everything, and it was embarrassing to his family and everything? Well, at that time when he had to go, that was on August 9th.

Yeah, and we have pretty good evidence of that. What they didn't know is they tried to put him on the second floor. That's where the whites ate their lunch. Lee Oswald, remember I told you he got arrested in New Orleans on the 9th and everything, and it was embarrassing to his family and everything? Well, at that time when he had to go, that was on August 9th.

And excuse me.

And excuse me.

Okay, on Monday, the next Monday, he has to go in and pay a $10 fine, which is like $100 today. Mm-hmm. He sits on the black side with the blacks. When we rode on the buses, we sat in the back of the bus with the blacks. We were so pro-civil rights. Lee Oswald wasn't eating lunches ever. They didn't know this with the whites on the second floor.

Okay, on Monday, the next Monday, he has to go in and pay a $10 fine, which is like $100 today. Mm-hmm. He sits on the black side with the blacks. When we rode on the buses, we sat in the back of the bus with the blacks. We were so pro-civil rights. Lee Oswald wasn't eating lunches ever. They didn't know this with the whites on the second floor.

He was always eating with the blacks on the first floor. They've got to get him on the second floor because there's no way they know that if he was supposedly on the first floor where, by the way, he's... He mentioned two blacks he saw that were in there. He said, yeah, I was with Sosa. They saw me eating, you know, lunch there. And he's drinking Dr. Pepper.

He was always eating with the blacks on the first floor. They've got to get him on the second floor because there's no way they know that if he was supposedly on the first floor where, by the way, he's... He mentioned two blacks he saw that were in there. He said, yeah, I was with Sosa. They saw me eating, you know, lunch there. And he's drinking Dr. Pepper.

I try not to cry because our lives changed so much after my grandmother died. And it never would be the same. I actually had skipped a couple grades in school, and I actually dropped out of school for a whole year. I just went in there, took their test, and dropped out. So I didn't want to go to school.

I try not to cry because our lives changed so much after my grandmother died. And it never would be the same. I actually had skipped a couple grades in school, and I actually dropped out of school for a whole year. I just went in there, took their test, and dropped out. So I didn't want to go to school.

His favorite drink, Dr. Pepper, not Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola machine was on the second floor. Dr. Pepper machine is on the first floor. Yeah. So anyway, there's lots of stuff like that going on. So they have to change it that he's on the second floor, even though he never ate up there. There's so many things. A lot of it's in the, most of it's in the book.

His favorite drink, Dr. Pepper, not Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola machine was on the second floor. Dr. Pepper machine is on the first floor. Yeah. So anyway, there's lots of stuff like that going on. So they have to change it that he's on the second floor, even though he never ate up there. There's so many things. A lot of it's in the, most of it's in the book.

Now I had to put it in the book because it's something that happened to me at any time. I've been hit by cars three times. I almost lost my left eye. I've had all my teeth knocked out in the front.

Now I had to put it in the book because it's something that happened to me at any time. I've been hit by cars three times. I almost lost my left eye. I've had all my teeth knocked out in the front.

Cut break line. What? Oh yeah. It's on record.

Cut break line. What? Oh yeah. It's on record.

Well, that happened in Orlando, Florida. Get this. I get my car to go to teach. And I go on the track, pump, there's no brake, bam, I get T-boned, okay?

Well, that happened in Orlando, Florida. Get this. I get my car to go to teach. And I go on the track, pump, there's no brake, bam, I get T-boned, okay?

Well, it's on this side, but this side's okay. I can still use it. I'm desperate because I've already had bad things happen. And I've already been hit. All right, it's a long story, but I was just recovering. I didn't want to lose my job. So I got balled out. Now, I was a mother of three sons. I helped them rebuild their car engines.

Well, it's on this side, but this side's okay. I can still use it. I'm desperate because I've already had bad things happen. And I've already been hit. All right, it's a long story, but I was just recovering. I didn't want to lose my job. So I got balled out. Now, I was a mother of three sons. I helped them rebuild their car engines.

And this guy's saying, stupid woman, you know, your master cylinder's empty.

And this guy's saying, stupid woman, you know, your master cylinder's empty.

I said, no, that's impossible. I know how to fill a master cylinder with fluid.

I said, no, that's impossible. I know how to fill a master cylinder with fluid.

Well, of course I do. I can rebuild engines. I don't even know how to do that. I know how to build a rocket engine. I really admire Elon Musk. I know what hell he's been through. All right. But at any rate. Bad things happen to good people, I'll tell you. At any rate, so he says, he filled it up.

Well, of course I do. I can rebuild engines. I don't even know how to do that. I know how to build a rocket engine. I really admire Elon Musk. I know what hell he's been through. All right. But at any rate. Bad things happen to good people, I'll tell you. At any rate, so he says, he filled it up.

Now, next morning, now, when they towed it, they just towed it half a block because the place was right there. So I'm going to get, he's right there, and I'm going right into traffic again, just like, almost like when I started out, okay? Bam, I get hit again.

Now, next morning, now, when they towed it, they just towed it half a block because the place was right there. So I'm going to get, he's right there, and I'm going right into traffic again, just like, almost like when I started out, okay? Bam, I get hit again.

By this time, I hit a Cadillac. The guy is so angry, they put me in court right away. Well, the mechanic followed. He said, no way in hell. I filled that myself. He said, I got under. It's on record. My brake line was severed. Yeah. Wow.

By this time, I hit a Cadillac. The guy is so angry, they put me in court right away. Well, the mechanic followed. He said, no way in hell. I filled that myself. He said, I got under. It's on record. My brake line was severed. Yeah. Wow.

I had for 13 years the History Channel put out there that I helped create AIDS. I claimed that I helped create AIDS. I got so many death threats that I had to live overseas.

I had for 13 years the History Channel put out there that I helped create AIDS. I claimed that I helped create AIDS. I got so many death threats that I had to live overseas.

the last 13 years i moved every 90 days for 13 years what yes every 90 days you gotta see my passports yeah passports because you fill them up you know and you did this because you think that they're following you trying to whack think you know I've got Sweden couldn't keep me because U.S. does. I said, don't you think that one person, maybe 300 million people might have a trouble with the U.S.

the last 13 years i moved every 90 days for 13 years what yes every 90 days you gotta see my passports yeah passports because you fill them up you know and you did this because you think that they're following you trying to whack think you know I've got Sweden couldn't keep me because U.S. does. I said, don't you think that one person, maybe 300 million people might have a trouble with the U.S.

government? They were going to deport me right away when I went there for political asylum. But then they found records that somebody accused me via Osama bin Laden's friend and all these other horrible things. And so they looked into it longer. They were going to deport me finally. He said, we don't know what to do with you because we're not allowed.

government? They were going to deport me right away when I went there for political asylum. But then they found records that somebody accused me via Osama bin Laden's friend and all these other horrible things. And so they looked into it longer. They were going to deport me finally. He said, we don't know what to do with you because we're not allowed.

You're not, you know, you're not from Iran or anything, you know. And you've got a service dog. By the way, my service dog was poisoned. The one before hers shot to death. All this is on record. I'm going to get emotional. I don't want to get emotional because it does no good. I'd be followed. I'd turn around and take their pictures. They quit doing that. I got pictures of these people.

You're not, you know, you're not from Iran or anything, you know. And you've got a service dog. By the way, my service dog was poisoned. The one before hers shot to death. All this is on record. I'm going to get emotional. I don't want to get emotional because it does no good. I'd be followed. I'd turn around and take their pictures. They quit doing that. I got pictures of these people.

Others tried to help me. We'd meet at a restaurant and somebody else would sit down and stare at them until they got scared to death and left, you know, that kind of thing. It's a lot of intimidation.

Others tried to help me. We'd meet at a restaurant and somebody else would sit down and stare at them until they got scared to death and left, you know, that kind of thing. It's a lot of intimidation.

uh so it's it's interesting lee and i both spent a lot of time not going to school we had very parallel lives at this time it's amazing now he was a little older than i all right but we're listening on the shortwave radio remember my dad had the best shortwave and back then that's the internet for us shortwave we got the news and by the way it was real news not what we call views today, okay?

uh so it's it's interesting lee and i both spent a lot of time not going to school we had very parallel lives at this time it's amazing now he was a little older than i all right but we're listening on the shortwave radio remember my dad had the best shortwave and back then that's the internet for us shortwave we got the news and by the way it was real news not what we call views today, okay?

Let me explain. For example, Mexico City, I have the documents showing that every single original document in Mexico City was destroyed. They were all rewritten. I've got page after page directives of what they did. And then they put in the safe the stuff that they pretended that were very important. And sent the rest to the Warren Commission.

Let me explain. For example, Mexico City, I have the documents showing that every single original document in Mexico City was destroyed. They were all rewritten. I've got page after page directives of what they did. And then they put in the safe the stuff that they pretended that were very important. And sent the rest to the Warren Commission.

But stuff that was all laundered, it's all marked sanitized even.

But stuff that was all laundered, it's all marked sanitized even.

They will never release what really happened.

They will never release what really happened.

Now, here's what's going on.

Now, here's what's going on.

I mean, they released the Aparicio files. I say Raul Aparicio. It's really important because I'm the only one who knew anymore what happened with Raul. He's the only one that could have issued a visa for Lee Oswald in one day.

I mean, they released the Aparicio files. I say Raul Aparicio. It's really important because I'm the only one who knew anymore what happened with Raul. He's the only one that could have issued a visa for Lee Oswald in one day.

And so they made sure he got sick and went to the hospital so he couldn't get a visa to Lee. Well, how did Lee know about him? Turns out we've got records. Most of them are laundered, but you can tell Aparicio had some kind of connection with the CIA. Now, Teresa Perenza was there. This is important. Lee says, where's Raul? I need to – I've got the photographer.

And so they made sure he got sick and went to the hospital so he couldn't get a visa to Lee. Well, how did Lee know about him? Turns out we've got records. Most of them are laundered, but you can tell Aparicio had some kind of connection with the CIA. Now, Teresa Perenza was there. This is important. Lee says, where's Raul? I need to – I've got the photographer.

If you are a photographer or anything like that, you can get a one-day visa for cultural reasons into – I say, get a visa in one day to Cuba. So he tried to get it. And Aparicio wisely is in the hospital. You know what I mean? He doesn't want to. He's scared. I know. But nobody knew who he was. They'd forgotten. So these got released like padding. They didn't realize how important it was.

If you are a photographer or anything like that, you can get a one-day visa for cultural reasons into – I say, get a visa in one day to Cuba. So he tried to get it. And Aparicio wisely is in the hospital. You know what I mean? He doesn't want to. He's scared. I know. But nobody knew who he was. They'd forgotten. So these got released like padding. They didn't realize how important it was.

None of it was redacted. And I've got all kinds of stuff about that. So anyway, Proenza is the cultural attache's assistant. She's a lesbian who had the hots for Sylvia Duran, so Sylvia sent Lee over there to meet her, to meet Aparicio. And she, Teresa, said, well, he asked where he was, and I told him he wasn't there. This is important. Everything was fine. He said, goodbye, bye.

None of it was redacted. And I've got all kinds of stuff about that. So anyway, Proenza is the cultural attache's assistant. She's a lesbian who had the hots for Sylvia Duran, so Sylvia sent Lee over there to meet her, to meet Aparicio. And she, Teresa, said, well, he asked where he was, and I told him he wasn't there. This is important. Everything was fine. He said, goodbye, bye.

I'm sorry he's not here. CIA had a big problem because they had posted after the assassination, they knew Lee Oswald went to the embassy. So they said he was in there screaming, I want to kill JFK, screaming and yelling like he's insane. But you've got Proenza saying he was totally rational and called. What are we going to do?

I'm sorry he's not here. CIA had a big problem because they had posted after the assassination, they knew Lee Oswald went to the embassy. So they said he was in there screaming, I want to kill JFK, screaming and yelling like he's insane. But you've got Proenza saying he was totally rational and called. What are we going to do?

They went and framed Proenza and said she was working for the CIA, got her arrested. She ended up two years in jail in Cuba, in Savannah, before they finally realized she had been framed. OK, so we got all these people are wiped out and so on in every direction. So nobody knew about Proenza until I mentioned it, what the real reason was.

They went and framed Proenza and said she was working for the CIA, got her arrested. She ended up two years in jail in Cuba, in Savannah, before they finally realized she had been framed. OK, so we got all these people are wiped out and so on in every direction. So nobody knew about Proenza until I mentioned it, what the real reason was.

So recently, two documents got released, and they'd forgotten about Proenza a little bit. And at the bottom of each one, it says they want to show the list of these guys who are working for the CIA. And it mentions Proenza. They say, no, don't mention her. Cut her name out. Because, of course, that wasn't true. And by then, people had realized that she'd been put on there on purpose.

So recently, two documents got released, and they'd forgotten about Proenza a little bit. And at the bottom of each one, it says they want to show the list of these guys who are working for the CIA. And it mentions Proenza. They say, no, don't mention her. Cut her name out. Because, of course, that wasn't true. And by then, people had realized that she'd been put on there on purpose.

The day after my last child left home, which was December 26, 1998, I finally dared to take out the film JFK and look at it. Of course, it made me ill. If you understood all that I had gone through, you'd understand how I'd hidden it. I thought, sure, I promised Lee I would speak out. He said, I'd only ask you to please let my little girls know that I was a good guy. And I let him down.

The day after my last child left home, which was December 26, 1998, I finally dared to take out the film JFK and look at it. Of course, it made me ill. If you understood all that I had gone through, you'd understand how I'd hidden it. I thought, sure, I promised Lee I would speak out. He said, I'd only ask you to please let my little girls know that I was a good guy. And I let him down.

So they had to remove the names. I've got both those documents. I posted them on X. I'm at Judith on X. It's the only place, thank God for Elon Musk. It's the only place I've been able to speak. I've got so many documents I've already posted there. Okay.

So they had to remove the names. I've got both those documents. I posted them on X. I'm at Judith on X. It's the only place, thank God for Elon Musk. It's the only place I've been able to speak. I've got so many documents I've already posted there. Okay.

This is the tip of the iceberg, the stuff I've got.

This is the tip of the iceberg, the stuff I've got.

You want to show people what they did to my book?

You want to show people what they did to my book?

It was the real thing. So we're hearing machine guns going off. We're hearing bombs going off. We're hearing the Hungarians begging America, where were you? You said you were going to help us, and you could hear them dying. It was horrible. Well, somebody else was listening as well, and that was Lee Oswald. On October 23, 1956, he's listening on shortwave radio. To please the Hungarians.

It was the real thing. So we're hearing machine guns going off. We're hearing bombs going off. We're hearing the Hungarians begging America, where were you? You said you were going to help us, and you could hear them dying. It was horrible. Well, somebody else was listening as well, and that was Lee Oswald. On October 23, 1956, he's listening on shortwave radio. To please the Hungarians.

But you see what they did? They ruined it. Absolutely.

But you see what they did? They ruined it. Absolutely.

They're unsaleable. A piece of paper hanging out of them, somewhat typed upside down. You pick up the cover, it falls off.

They're unsaleable. A piece of paper hanging out of them, somewhat typed upside down. You pick up the cover, it falls off.

Me and Lee is 10 years old. We've got all the documents, 2017. We've got Raul Aparicio and other stuff. See, I could say these things, but I couldn't put it in the book until I had evidence to back it up. Everything I'm telling you, I have documents on. And by the way, I have backups. By the way, I have depositions because I've started working with attorneys.

Me and Lee is 10 years old. We've got all the documents, 2017. We've got Raul Aparicio and other stuff. See, I could say these things, but I couldn't put it in the book until I had evidence to back it up. Everything I'm telling you, I have documents on. And by the way, I have backups. By the way, I have depositions because I've started working with attorneys.

And now my testimony is in the portal of Texas history. I've got the documentation to show that I have credible. I had it. I told you I showed you about 60 minutes. I'd like to before we finish.

And now my testimony is in the portal of Texas history. I've got the documentation to show that I have credible. I had it. I told you I showed you about 60 minutes. I'd like to before we finish.

No, 14 months.

No, 14 months.

Yeah, but the point is they tried very hard to do it. They were not allowed to.

Yeah, but the point is they tried very hard to do it. They were not allowed to.

Well, no, 60 Minutes. So we had Don Hewitt, who founded 60 Minutes. Phil Scheffler is number one guy. And, well, we had a number of other people that were involved. But the point is, is it was a wonderful team, all right, set up. And the difficulty that we had is that CBS at the top had Dan Rather on. The one who said, oh, I saw Kennedy's head thrown violently forward, you know.

Well, no, 60 Minutes. So we had Don Hewitt, who founded 60 Minutes. Phil Scheffler is number one guy. And, well, we had a number of other people that were involved. But the point is, is it was a wonderful team, all right, set up. And the difficulty that we had is that CBS at the top had Dan Rather on. The one who said, oh, I saw Kennedy's head thrown violently forward, you know.

So nobody knew. That's right.

So nobody knew. That's right.

So he's at the top and he could get in big trouble. And CBS has got new people up there. And they locked three times. They tried to film me. I even had makeup on my face the third time. And he blocked it. So 60 Minutes got really mad about it all, you know.

So he's at the top and he could get in big trouble. And CBS has got new people up there. And they locked three times. They tried to film me. I even had makeup on my face the third time. And he blocked it. So 60 Minutes got really mad about it all, you know.

Mike Wallace said, this ain't going to fly. He said, look, what they're going to do, we're going to have to cancel this because they won't even give us a special because like you, you know, it needs a lot of time. They won't give us a special. He said, we've got to make sure that Baker, he didn't say Judith or anything like that.

Mike Wallace said, this ain't going to fly. He said, look, what they're going to do, we're going to have to cancel this because they won't even give us a special because like you, you know, it needs a lot of time. They won't give us a special. He said, we've got to make sure that Baker, he didn't say Judith or anything like that.

We've got to make sure Baker doesn't get discredited because we have to. So they made CVS issue to me two checks. And I showed you one of them. You have a copy of the W-2 form.

We've got to make sure Baker doesn't get discredited because we have to. So they made CVS issue to me two checks. And I showed you one of them. You have a copy of the W-2 form.

CVS had to pay me over $2,000 in lost wages. They've never did that in history. No, they've never paid anybody.

CVS had to pay me over $2,000 in lost wages. They've never did that in history. No, they've never paid anybody.

Well, they couldn't film. They destroyed everything. They didn't. They had audio. They didn't have film made yet. They had audio, but they all destroyed. But they gave me back all my documents. When you hand over a document at 60 Minutes, you don't get it back. I got mine back. I got the money. He said, we've got to show that you were credible.

Well, they couldn't film. They destroyed everything. They didn't. They had audio. They didn't have film made yet. They had audio, but they all destroyed. But they gave me back all my documents. When you hand over a document at 60 Minutes, you don't get it back. I got mine back. I got the money. He said, we've got to show that you were credible.

60 Minutes, CBS, not going to pay somebody if they're not a credible witness. And that'll be your proof. So I showed that to you.

60 Minutes, CBS, not going to pay somebody if they're not a credible witness. And that'll be your proof. So I showed that to you.

Think about, well, let me put it this way. Think about the lockdowns that happened, how people were forced to do something that maybe they shouldn't have been forced to have to do. People, use your imaginations. Understand, who would have ever dreamed that the whole world would be locked down over something like that? That just sounds like a fairy tale, too.

Think about, well, let me put it this way. Think about the lockdowns that happened, how people were forced to do something that maybe they shouldn't have been forced to have to do. People, use your imaginations. Understand, who would have ever dreamed that the whole world would be locked down over something like that? That just sounds like a fairy tale, too.

You won't find this in Wikipedia.

You won't find this in Wikipedia.

So this thing is big, and it's linked to all that. We can trace it all the way back from Chester Sotham with his experiments. That virus we can trace all the way back to us. They don't want you to hear it, and they're going to make fun of me forever.

So this thing is big, and it's linked to all that. We can trace it all the way back from Chester Sotham with his experiments. That virus we can trace all the way back to us. They don't want you to hear it, and they're going to make fun of me forever.

Well, God bless you. And I credit God that I'm alive.

Well, God bless you. And I credit God that I'm alive.

No. He just turned 17. He tried when he was 16 to join the Marines, and with a fake birth certificate the mafia made for him, that didn't work. And his mother wanted him out anyway. That was fine with Lee. He was the youngest, and he wanted to follow his brothers in the military. Mm-hmm. So he tried to join. Well, now he's 17. He's thinking about joining, but he'd like to finish high school.

No. He just turned 17. He tried when he was 16 to join the Marines, and with a fake birth certificate the mafia made for him, that didn't work. And his mother wanted him out anyway. That was fine with Lee. He was the youngest, and he wanted to follow his brothers in the military. Mm-hmm. So he tried to join. Well, now he's 17. He's thinking about joining, but he'd like to finish high school.

They saved my left eye. I've had so much damage done. I can't feel either of my hands. I see double vision. I'm legally blind, all this kind of stuff. Wow. But you see how well I read. I've learned.

They saved my left eye. I've had so much damage done. I can't feel either of my hands. I see double vision. I'm legally blind, all this kind of stuff. Wow. But you see how well I read. I've learned.

Well, one time I could read 4,200 words a minute.

Well, one time I could read 4,200 words a minute.

But then he hears the Hungarian Revolution. That's on the 23rd. On the 24th, Lee Oswald joined the Marines to fight the Reds, as he told me with his own mouth. Is anybody telling you he's pro-communist? All that is a front because he wanted to be a spy. His great dream was to do like Herbert Philbrick.

But then he hears the Hungarian Revolution. That's on the 23rd. On the 24th, Lee Oswald joined the Marines to fight the Reds, as he told me with his own mouth. Is anybody telling you he's pro-communist? All that is a front because he wanted to be a spy. His great dream was to do like Herbert Philbrick.

I led three lives, and I have a very important document I sent you guys because I would be sent to New Orleans. I mean, excuse me, to Buffalo, New York at one point for training. And I'm going to show you as I show that to Lee and why that's important. So we have enough time on this wonderful show. Yes. I can do that.

I led three lives, and I have a very important document I sent you guys because I would be sent to New Orleans. I mean, excuse me, to Buffalo, New York at one point for training. And I'm going to show you as I show that to Lee and why that's important. So we have enough time on this wonderful show. Yes. I can do that.

Things like this, because the background is so important to understand how much I know about Lee Oswald.

Things like this, because the background is so important to understand how much I know about Lee Oswald.

Not just a girlfriend. In fact, I consider myself his fiance. Yes, I'll tell you. Lee Oswald, Friday morning, he's going off, as he told me, they're probably going to kill him.

Not just a girlfriend. In fact, I consider myself his fiance. Yes, I'll tell you. Lee Oswald, Friday morning, he's going off, as he told me, they're probably going to kill him.

I talked to him only 37 and a half hours before the assassination. He left his wedding ring behind. Understand? Because he told me, I'm not going to come with you with that wedding ring on. He left it behind. So there's a lot more I can tell you. Yeah. It was a real signal to me, you know.

I talked to him only 37 and a half hours before the assassination. He left his wedding ring behind. Understand? Because he told me, I'm not going to come with you with that wedding ring on. He left it behind. So there's a lot more I can tell you. Yeah. It was a real signal to me, you know.

She kept that ring for years. Marina Oswald did when she heard that he left it behind because he intended to marry someone else. She sold it.

She kept that ring for years. Marina Oswald did when she heard that he left it behind because he intended to marry someone else. She sold it.

Good Lord. Poor thing. I mean, you wouldn't want to hold on to it, would you?

Good Lord. Poor thing. I mean, you wouldn't want to hold on to it, would you?

That's right. So she finally sold it when she realized the background on it.

That's right. So she finally sold it when she realized the background on it.

Let's go back.

Let's go back.

That's not back far enough. I'll just go a little bit here, show you some pictures. Because when this IQ thing came along, that's when I got my own lab. His name was Dr. Knute Mickelson. Came to visit CIA. Now, the only way I can prove it is he's using a fake name, but it happened to be in our student newspaper where it talked about his whole history, like he'd been a spy for Hitler.

That's not back far enough. I'll just go a little bit here, show you some pictures. Because when this IQ thing came along, that's when I got my own lab. His name was Dr. Knute Mickelson. Came to visit CIA. Now, the only way I can prove it is he's using a fake name, but it happened to be in our student newspaper where it talked about his whole history, like he'd been a spy for Hitler.

I mean, against Hitler, but pretending to be pro-Hitler. He took a shine to me, thank God, because he came to interview me and two others, David Dietrich and Dave Tracy. All three of us had scored very, very high IQs in the state of Florida. Here we're at the same school. Probably if it had been one of us, I don't know where they made that trip, but he made it for the three of us.

I mean, against Hitler, but pretending to be pro-Hitler. He took a shine to me, thank God, because he came to interview me and two others, David Dietrich and Dave Tracy. All three of us had scored very, very high IQs in the state of Florida. Here we're at the same school. Probably if it had been one of us, I don't know where they made that trip, but he made it for the three of us.

And he focused on me then for almost two weeks. Taught me all kinds of things. I think it's because I was a girl and he never had a daughter or something. But he told me all about his life and how his family rejected him. Boy, do I know how that feels now myself. because they all thought that he was working as a spy for Hitler, not against him, and all that. And you know what?

And he focused on me then for almost two weeks. Taught me all kinds of things. I think it's because I was a girl and he never had a daughter or something. But he told me all about his life and how his family rejected him. Boy, do I know how that feels now myself. because they all thought that he was working as a spy for Hitler, not against him, and all that. And you know what?

When I told this to Lee, You should have seen his face because his whole family was rejecting him because he was doing the same sort of thing, pretending to be pro-Castro, all that.

When I told this to Lee, You should have seen his face because his whole family was rejecting him because he was doing the same sort of thing, pretending to be pro-Castro, all that.

And imagine, he said, here's one of the things he said, like, he got arrested on August 9th for handing out, they said, public disturbance and all that. I've got so much to say about that, what happened there. Mm-hmm. He said, you have no idea how I felt getting my mug shot.

And imagine, he said, here's one of the things he said, like, he got arrested on August 9th for handing out, they said, public disturbance and all that. I've got so much to say about that, what happened there. Mm-hmm. He said, you have no idea how I felt getting my mug shot.

I had lived clean for my family, and now I'm in New Orleans where I was born and raised so much of the time, and I'm disgracing my family. I'm doing this for my country. But it really hurt him. And I just about cried with him because I understood because of Mickelson had told me all the – so when I told him all the stuff Mickelson went through.

I had lived clean for my family, and now I'm in New Orleans where I was born and raised so much of the time, and I'm disgracing my family. I'm doing this for my country. But it really hurt him. And I just about cried with him because I understood because of Mickelson had told me all the – so when I told him all the stuff Mickelson went through.

And there are other things that I was able to tell him. It really created a bond between us. And he would end up – he had no one to talk to, but he understood. We just hit it off immediately, and I'll talk about how we met as soon as I managed to get through the training. Okay. So we're talking about all that training. Now, Alton Ochsner, I'm going to try and force things out.

And there are other things that I was able to tell him. It really created a bond between us. And he would end up – he had no one to talk to, but he understood. We just hit it off immediately, and I'll talk about how we met as soon as I managed to get through the training. Okay. So we're talking about all that training. Now, Alton Ochsner, I'm going to try and force things out.

I was afraid. Now something stirred in me because it said in Oliver Stone's movie there, it said, silence, you know, is evil too. To be silent is to... And I knew I couldn't be silent anymore. I laid out all the evidence. Not all, I have boxes and boxes. Why did I save evidence? I was in a project secretly funded by the CIA and the mafia and so on to kill Fidel Castro.

I was afraid. Now something stirred in me because it said in Oliver Stone's movie there, it said, silence, you know, is evil too. To be silent is to... And I knew I couldn't be silent anymore. I laid out all the evidence. Not all, I have boxes and boxes. Why did I save evidence? I was in a project secretly funded by the CIA and the mafia and so on to kill Fidel Castro.

This is very interesting. At the time in 1960, when I'm not only getting my own lab, but military officers insist that I go and learn Russian.

This is very interesting. At the time in 1960, when I'm not only getting my own lab, but military officers insist that I go and learn Russian.

You're in high school. They want me to be able to translate cancer research things. Right now, by the way, I had invented a new way to get magnesium out of seawater that hadn't been done before. Yeah, I was 16. And that sent me to the International Science Fair. That's where I brought all my cancer research stuff with me at that time.

You're in high school. They want me to be able to translate cancer research things. Right now, by the way, I had invented a new way to get magnesium out of seawater that hadn't been done before. Yeah, I was 16. And that sent me to the International Science Fair. That's where I brought all my cancer research stuff with me at that time.

And so Eli Lilly and all that got to see it.

And so Eli Lilly and all that got to see it.

And although there's many circumstances why I was not able to even get interviewed, it didn't matter because all of a sudden I've got Oak Ridge on my side. I've got Walter Reed Institute. They're sending me material. They will be sending me materials. including esoteric chemicals and things. I got mice by then from the Rockefeller Foundation.

And although there's many circumstances why I was not able to even get interviewed, it didn't matter because all of a sudden I've got Oak Ridge on my side. I've got Walter Reed Institute. They're sending me material. They will be sending me materials. including esoteric chemicals and things. I got mice by then from the Rockefeller Foundation.

Then later I would get them from other sources, and it's from banks. They laundered this through banks, you know, offering the mice, that kind of thing. But it was all really—I was being started already in this training. I'm still in high school. I ended up, well, I want to back up now, show you this medicine urged as Cold War aid. I want you to see this.

Then later I would get them from other sources, and it's from banks. They laundered this through banks, you know, offering the mice, that kind of thing. But it was all really—I was being started already in this training. I'm still in high school. I ended up, well, I want to back up now, show you this medicine urged as Cold War aid. I want you to see this.

And you might read the first paragraph or so. That's Alton Ochsner. This is 1960. It's about the same time I've gone to International Science Fair and so on.

And you might read the first paragraph or so. That's Alton Ochsner. This is 1960. It's about the same time I've gone to International Science Fair and so on.

Okay, Alton Ochsner ends up being on the secret side of things, all right, to try and kill Fidel Castro.

Okay, Alton Ochsner ends up being on the secret side of things, all right, to try and kill Fidel Castro.

Right. And by the way, I'll be talking about how I gave lung cancer to mice in only seven days. I got his attention, as you can imagine.

Right. And by the way, I'll be talking about how I gave lung cancer to mice in only seven days. I got his attention, as you can imagine.

with the fbi for some clandestine operation he did some sort of secret work for the fbi we have not only fbi we have i have documents in my possession showing that his last contact of oxford clinic was november 1963.

with the fbi for some clandestine operation he did some sort of secret work for the fbi we have not only fbi we have i have documents in my possession showing that his last contact of oxford clinic was november 1963.

I'm a witness. A witness they've tried to stop. But I can't be stopped because this is also about love. It's also about justice. It's also about the truth. And I'm still here despite everything. And everything is a lot. All right. Because I first started speaking out early in 1999. And that completely destroyed my life.

I'm a witness. A witness they've tried to stop. But I can't be stopped because this is also about love. It's also about justice. It's also about the truth. And I'm still here despite everything. And everything is a lot. All right. Because I first started speaking out early in 1999. And that completely destroyed my life.

The Soxer Clinic.

The Soxer Clinic.

He was associated with Tulane and we were associated with Tulane and also with the Covington, the Primate Research Center, very important.

He was associated with Tulane and we were associated with Tulane and also with the Covington, the Primate Research Center, very important.

Well, there's also Sarah Stewart.

Well, there's also Sarah Stewart.

Unfortunately, he mixed up Sarah Stewart's name with Dr. Mary Sherman's name. It was really Dr. Mary Sherman that was working with me in New Orleans. So

Unfortunately, he mixed up Sarah Stewart's name with Dr. Mary Sherman's name. It was really Dr. Mary Sherman that was working with me in New Orleans. So

He absolutely did. I sent you a picture. There it is.

He absolutely did. I sent you a picture. There it is.

And I'll show you the special training and everything I had for that. But the whole idea was we thought we were saving the world. Just like today, if somebody said, hey, we know how to kill Putin, the U.S. won't be involved because it'll look like natural. A biological weapon was being created and I got involved in that.

And I'll show you the special training and everything I had for that. But the whole idea was we thought we were saving the world. Just like today, if somebody said, hey, we know how to kill Putin, the U.S. won't be involved because it'll look like natural. A biological weapon was being created and I got involved in that.

His grandson died in two weeks.

His grandson died in two weeks.

That's right. And he did this in front of the press and everything. Now, that taught him a big lesson. This is what you have to understand. He trusted his doctors. He trusted them. Now he realizes Castro has doctors that he trusts. And some of them secretly hate his guts.

That's right. And he did this in front of the press and everything. Now, that taught him a big lesson. This is what you have to understand. He trusted his doctors. He trusted them. Now he realizes Castro has doctors that he trusts. And some of them secretly hate his guts.

There are ways to get to castor oil. If not that, text. When doctors ask for a vial of penicillin, somebody takes it out of the refrigerator. Who put it in? You have to understand how there are so many ways to get to castor oil.

There are ways to get to castor oil. If not that, text. When doctors ask for a vial of penicillin, somebody takes it out of the refrigerator. Who put it in? You have to understand how there are so many ways to get to castor oil.

No, CIA, FBI is only peripheral. He actually founded Inca.

No, CIA, FBI is only peripheral. He actually founded Inca.

No, this was called...

No, this was called...

That's right. They went to over 3,000 radio stations all over Latin America, Middle America, and so on.

That's right. They went to over 3,000 radio stations all over Latin America, Middle America, and so on.

Of course. And one of them was my boss. Let's get started. There's something I want you to see. This is Thursday, March 15th. I'm going in chronological order here. You've got that for 1960, so on, when that started. In 62... JFK comes to New Orleans to dedicate a pier. Now, of all the people that hated JFK, Alton Oxford has to be at the top. Despise the man. Hated him.

Of course. And one of them was my boss. Let's get started. There's something I want you to see. This is Thursday, March 15th. I'm going in chronological order here. You've got that for 1960, so on, when that started. In 62... JFK comes to New Orleans to dedicate a pier. Now, of all the people that hated JFK, Alton Oxford has to be at the top. Despise the man. Hated him.

Oh, for many, many reasons. He thought he was a communist. Remember, this guy is always, you can't get anybody more anti-communist than Old Moxner. That doesn't mean he was always right. In this thing, the idea of catering to anything, any demands, he was completely, of course, the CIA told him what they thought of him because of Bay of Pigs and all that. Made JFK take the blame.

Oh, for many, many reasons. He thought he was a communist. Remember, this guy is always, you can't get anybody more anti-communist than Old Moxner. That doesn't mean he was always right. In this thing, the idea of catering to anything, any demands, he was completely, of course, the CIA told him what they thought of him because of Bay of Pigs and all that. Made JFK take the blame.

So I just want to say I laid out the evidence.

So I just want to say I laid out the evidence.

We now know it wasn't him. There's a lot I could tell you about David Ferry and how he thought that JFK was to blame as well. David Ferry is someone that I sent you a clip about him.

We now know it wasn't him. There's a lot I could tell you about David Ferry and how he thought that JFK was to blame as well. David Ferry is someone that I sent you a clip about him.

He was always a CIA pilot.

He was always a CIA pilot.

The thing is, is that I say always. I mean, in the... anytime from the Bay of Pigs on, okay, and before he was training, anti-castro pilots for the CIA and things like that. And he was a fantastic pilot himself. But I want you to see this. It's going to be very remarkable. This is from the Congress of the United States, all right. Thursday, March 15, 1962, Kennedy is going to come to New Orleans.

The thing is, is that I say always. I mean, in the... anytime from the Bay of Pigs on, okay, and before he was training, anti-castro pilots for the CIA and things like that. And he was a fantastic pilot himself. But I want you to see this. It's going to be very remarkable. This is from the Congress of the United States, all right. Thursday, March 15, 1962, Kennedy is going to come to New Orleans.

On the bed. I looked at it and I started shaking all over because I knew I had enough evidence.

On the bed. I looked at it and I started shaking all over because I knew I had enough evidence.

Guess who is in charge of all the details for his visit?

Guess who is in charge of all the details for his visit?

Alton Ochsner.

Alton Ochsner.

A surgeon. Who hates him. He gets all the medical information about JFK. He gets all the information about, remember they had a parade, all the parade information. One year later, that's going to become very valuable. We're talking about 1963. A year later, this is March 62. And he knows everybody that are involved with the parades and everything.

A surgeon. Who hates him. He gets all the medical information about JFK. He gets all the information about, remember they had a parade, all the parade information. One year later, that's going to become very valuable. We're talking about 1963. A year later, this is March 62. And he knows everybody that are involved with the parades and everything.

So anyway, here's the document showing he was in charge of everything for JFK. You go about the center of the document there.

So anyway, here's the document showing he was in charge of everything for JFK. You go about the center of the document there.

I watched the film. And so. By January 1999, I was teaching at university. I don't want to mention all that, but the fact is that you have a big break until way after New Year's, Christmas. So I actually wrote most of the book during that period of time. I have an eidetic memory. You'll later find out 60 Minutes was a maze because...

I watched the film. And so. By January 1999, I was teaching at university. I don't want to mention all that, but the fact is that you have a big break until way after New Year's, Christmas. So I actually wrote most of the book during that period of time. I have an eidetic memory. You'll later find out 60 Minutes was a maze because...

I may have to read where it is. You've lost it, huh?

I may have to read where it is. You've lost it, huh?

Here, let me get it back. I'll read the part. Sorry about that. All right. Okay. Congressman Vox says all the members that the... So this was addressed to Ochsner? Just a moment.

Here, let me get it back. I'll read the part. Sorry about that. All right. Okay. Congressman Vox says all the members that the... So this was addressed to Ochsner? Just a moment.

The International House of New Orleans will sponsor the president's visit to the Crescent City, Congressman Boggs said. Dr. Alton Ochsner, president of International House and as internationally famous surgeon, will be in charge of arrangements in New Orleans for the president's visit.

The International House of New Orleans will sponsor the president's visit to the Crescent City, Congressman Boggs said. Dr. Alton Ochsner, president of International House and as internationally famous surgeon, will be in charge of arrangements in New Orleans for the president's visit.

Yep.

Yep.

Just above where you're reading.

Just above where you're reading.

Yeah, I've got all kinds of documents other people don't have. Here's a picture. Let's go back a little bit about, as I said, getting my own lab and all that. It got into... Probably one of the reasons I didn't get killed like almost everybody did who was in these projects is because I was just too much in the news. Had newspaper articles and lots of stuff showing me in the labs. Here we go.

Yeah, I've got all kinds of documents other people don't have. Here's a picture. Let's go back a little bit about, as I said, getting my own lab and all that. It got into... Probably one of the reasons I didn't get killed like almost everybody did who was in these projects is because I was just too much in the news. Had newspaper articles and lots of stuff showing me in the labs. Here we go.

Yeah, you may want to show it. I can't see well enough to know what I'm doing.

Yeah, you may want to show it. I can't see well enough to know what I'm doing.

Yeah, that was in my lab. Now, that lab.

Yeah, that was in my lab. Now, that lab.

Yeah, we've got lots and lots of.

Yeah, we've got lots and lots of.

You'll notice one that says national meet there. All right, with scientists. It says near the bottom, look.

You'll notice one that says national meet there. All right, with scientists. It says near the bottom, look.

I may have to show it to you.

I may have to show it to you.

Well, this is important. Senior attends National Meet with Scientists right here.

Well, this is important. Senior attends National Meet with Scientists right here.

No, I just know where that's there. What's important is that this wasn't any ordinary. I crashed it, actually, and they were going to arrest me. But I had nobody... The work I was doing was so advanced that none of the doctors I was working with, even though two of them had trained at Oak Ridge, understood what I was doing. And, see, Dr. Alton Ochster would be there.

No, I just know where that's there. What's important is that this wasn't any ordinary. I crashed it, actually, and they were going to arrest me. But I had nobody... The work I was doing was so advanced that none of the doctors I was working with, even though two of them had trained at Oak Ridge, understood what I was doing. And, see, Dr. Alton Ochster would be there.

Also, Dr. Harold Deal, who was the vice president of the American Cancer Society. All three of them then came to my lab. When they saw what I had, by the way, the lab by then had been, people were scared because of the way the mice looked, the big tumors and everything. They moved me under the stadium. They rebuilt the lab for me under the stadium.

Also, Dr. Harold Deal, who was the vice president of the American Cancer Society. All three of them then came to my lab. When they saw what I had, by the way, the lab by then had been, people were scared because of the way the mice looked, the big tumors and everything. They moved me under the stadium. They rebuilt the lab for me under the stadium.

I gave, but now I'm 17.

I gave, but now I'm 17.

Wait, wait. No. All right. First of all, when they see what I've got, I was able to show them and proved it with all my documents and everything. Then I gave my lung cancer in only seven days. It would take them four years to duplicate what I did because it had to be duplicated to prove I did it at Russell Park Institute by Dr. James T. Grace.

Wait, wait. No. All right. First of all, when they see what I've got, I was able to show them and proved it with all my documents and everything. Then I gave my lung cancer in only seven days. It would take them four years to duplicate what I did because it had to be duplicated to prove I did it at Russell Park Institute by Dr. James T. Grace.

I did it in three months. It took them four years.

I did it in three months. It took them four years.

Yeah. Well, you've got to think out of the box.

Yeah. Well, you've got to think out of the box.

That's the problem. So, you know. All right. So when this happened, they sent me to Roswell Park Institute for training. Not just ordinary training. I was in Dr. George Moore. He was in charge of 800 researchers. And they also had a program going on with students and all that they could slip me into. So they had a reason to get me there, you know.

That's the problem. So, you know. All right. So when this happened, they sent me to Roswell Park Institute for training. Not just ordinary training. I was in Dr. George Moore. He was in charge of 800 researchers. And they also had a program going on with students and all that they could slip me into. So they had a reason to get me there, you know.

And I actually attended seminars that were by Dr. Moran. And we've got a photograph I sent to you. It shows me one of six people they pick out to interview. So I got the papers and all that in Buffalo, New York and so on. Why is it important? Because... I wasn't just in the students. These are witnesses are coming up.

And I actually attended seminars that were by Dr. Moran. And we've got a photograph I sent to you. It shows me one of six people they pick out to interview. So I got the papers and all that in Buffalo, New York and so on. Why is it important? Because... I wasn't just in the students. These are witnesses are coming up.

They had a 14-month investigation of me, and tapes that they had made early on when they replayed them and asked me the same questions, I was identical and everything. I don't need a calendar or anything, you know. And so, I mean, it's all clear. I see things in pictures.

They had a 14-month investigation of me, and tapes that they had made early on when they replayed them and asked me the same questions, I was identical and everything. I don't need a calendar or anything, you know. And so, I mean, it's all clear. I see things in pictures.

OK. All right. Basically, what what's going on is that I am not just one of these other students. I'm in Dr. I met Dr. Moore, who runs the whole thing in his personal lab. We're working on a special formula that can grow cancer cells faster than any other formula on earth. Now, why do we want to do that?

OK. All right. Basically, what what's going on is that I am not just one of these other students. I'm in Dr. I met Dr. Moore, who runs the whole thing in his personal lab. We're working on a special formula that can grow cancer cells faster than any other formula on earth. Now, why do we want to do that?

We want to grow cancer cells fast so that it can figure out, they told me, so that it could figure out how to- Steve, there's a full screen button on the top left. You'll see I'm the woman, the girl there on the right, bottom right. That's me there.

We want to grow cancer cells fast so that it can figure out, they told me, so that it could figure out how to- Steve, there's a full screen button on the top left. You'll see I'm the woman, the girl there on the right, bottom right. That's me there.

and they just picked us uh we were supposed to be the outstanding ones so they grabbed us and put us together but i mean we're talking about hundreds uh 60 they had about 60 of these students there and some of them were uh they were from all over the united states okay hungary and everywhere okay but i really was the only part of that group for seminars i was in Dr. Moore's own lab.

and they just picked us uh we were supposed to be the outstanding ones so they grabbed us and put us together but i mean we're talking about hundreds uh 60 they had about 60 of these students there and some of them were uh they were from all over the united states okay hungary and everywhere okay but i really was the only part of that group for seminars i was in Dr. Moore's own lab.

And at that time, we were working with bacteriophage. We were working with a certain monkey virus. And I became an expert in handling this, one of the few. But I helped develop something called the RPMI 1640 formula. It's very complicated. It grows cancer faster than anything. I have a document there I sent you that shows that I was asked to do more research on how to make cancer more deadly.

And at that time, we were working with bacteriophage. We were working with a certain monkey virus. And I became an expert in handling this, one of the few. But I helped develop something called the RPMI 1640 formula. It's very complicated. It grows cancer faster than anything. I have a document there I sent you that shows that I was asked to do more research on how to make cancer more deadly.

Well, they told me it's because we have to figure out how to, you know, if we can grow it faster, it gives us ideas on how to, you know, conquer it. That was a lie. I was being introduced.

Well, they told me it's because we have to figure out how to, you know, if we can grow it faster, it gives us ideas on how to, you know, conquer it. That was a lie. I was being introduced.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, the idea being like if you give kids milk, they're going to grow faster. Therefore, if you want to kill kids, you're not going to give them any milk. That's the idea, you know.

Well, the idea being like if you give kids milk, they're going to grow faster. Therefore, if you want to kill kids, you're not going to give them any milk. That's the idea, you know.

Yeah, so it's like that.

Yeah, so it's like that.

All right, all right. I fell for it, okay? Right, okay. Because they're prestigious doctors. I believe my doctors. You know, all these important people.

All right, all right. I fell for it, okay? Right, okay. Because they're prestigious doctors. I believe my doctors. You know, all these important people.

I became, after all, I gave cancer to mice in seven days. So I had methods that they were fascinated with and everything.

I became, after all, I gave cancer to mice in seven days. So I had methods that they were fascinated with and everything.

I knew Dr. James Renier. Remember, I said we're a Hungarian family. My grandmother knew the Renier family who were born in Vienna. including Dr. Renier, and we're right across the border in Capovar, just miles away, and of course they knew each other, is what I'm saying. My grandmother's very educated. She could speak many languages and so on.

I knew Dr. James Renier. Remember, I said we're a Hungarian family. My grandmother knew the Renier family who were born in Vienna. including Dr. Renier, and we're right across the border in Capovar, just miles away, and of course they knew each other, is what I'm saying. My grandmother's very educated. She could speak many languages and so on.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

She even went overseas seven times to get more training in the convent, because that's what girls had to do back then. So, Dr. Raniers actually moved to the, of all places, to South Bend. That's where I was born. That's where my family was. So, we have a bunch of Hungarians there. South Bend, Indiana, he is a professor at the University of Notre Dame. My family donated land to Notre Dame.

She even went overseas seven times to get more training in the convent, because that's what girls had to do back then. So, Dr. Raniers actually moved to the, of all places, to South Bend. That's where I was born. That's where my family was. So, we have a bunch of Hungarians there. South Bend, Indiana, he is a professor at the University of Notre Dame. My family donated land to Notre Dame.

Well, now I've had four. I have some blanks now. I've had four concussions. I've been hit by cars three times. I've had one time a hood of, I'm sorry, a trunk of a car was slammed down on my head. There have been, you know, everything's documented.

Well, now I've had four. I have some blanks now. I've had four concussions. I've been hit by cars three times. I've had one time a hood of, I'm sorry, a trunk of a car was slammed down on my head. There have been, you know, everything's documented.

You can see a small cemetery. I could get buried there if I wanted, okay? So we're talking about close ties. So yes, of course, the ties continue with Dr. Renier. He ended up being the first person to develop germ-free mice.

You can see a small cemetery. I could get buried there if I wanted, okay? So we're talking about close ties. So yes, of course, the ties continue with Dr. Renier. He ended up being the first person to develop germ-free mice.

We have them all over the place now because then you can introduce a germ to a mouse and find out really what happens without any interference.

We have them all over the place now because then you can introduce a germ to a mouse and find out really what happens without any interference.

Pure, clean mice. But let me tell you, you have to put them in an environment where nothing can reach them. No germs, like Bubble Boy.

Pure, clean mice. But let me tell you, you have to put them in an environment where nothing can reach them. No germs, like Bubble Boy.

Well, that's the point. Is cancer something you can give them, or is it because of eating or whatever? If germ-free mycin, you introduce a certain virus and it causes cancer, bingo. Okay? And I did.

Well, that's the point. Is cancer something you can give them, or is it because of eating or whatever? If germ-free mycin, you introduce a certain virus and it causes cancer, bingo. Okay? And I did.

Well, if I mention it, I'm going to get in trouble, right?

Well, if I mention it, I'm going to get in trouble, right?

But I didn't know it was that. It was, they determined that later. I cannot prove that. There's a document I cannot.

But I didn't know it was that. It was, they determined that later. I cannot prove that. There's a document I cannot.

Well, let me explain how I did this.

Well, let me explain how I did this.

Because I needed cancer in order to, how are you going to go and kill cancer without cancer? No, I understand why you're doing it. Yeah.

Because I needed cancer in order to, how are you going to go and kill cancer without cancer? No, I understand why you're doing it. Yeah.

Well, that's what I'm going to tell you.

Well, that's what I'm going to tell you.

Wait, just a second. Okay.

Wait, just a second. Okay.

All right. So the fact of the matter is, is that remember I said I had made a new method of getting magnesium out of seawater.

All right. So the fact of the matter is, is that remember I said I had made a new method of getting magnesium out of seawater.

I had chambers that were built that no... if one bit of oxygen got into these chambers it could explode it could die okay all right so we had i had to pump argon gas on top of the when we're refining the magnesium uh you know at one point if

I had chambers that were built that no... if one bit of oxygen got into these chambers it could explode it could die okay all right so we had i had to pump argon gas on top of the when we're refining the magnesium uh you know at one point if

any moxins you got in uh it could explode and my dad didn't want to lose me all right so he helped develop i had two chambers well those turned out to be perfect for putting germ-free mice in nothing could get in okay yeah so we could pump in the air filtered and all that kind of thing okay so where did you get the virus well we didn't know it at the time but i collected lots of cigarette butts from everywhere and that virus is can be trapped in the cigarette filters

any moxins you got in uh it could explode and my dad didn't want to lose me all right so he helped develop i had two chambers well those turned out to be perfect for putting germ-free mice in nothing could get in okay yeah so we could pump in the air filtered and all that kind of thing okay so where did you get the virus well we didn't know it at the time but i collected lots of cigarette butts from everywhere and that virus is can be trapped in the cigarette filters

I always ask that question when I got to tell you how I got to New Orleans and everything. Because if I do that, you're not going to figure out why he was there or anything.

I always ask that question when I got to tell you how I got to New Orleans and everything. Because if I do that, you're not going to figure out why he was there or anything.

can all kinds of viruses can be trapped in these asbestos type filters okay i mean we don't we didn't know what they were it says they isolate it later i didn't so you were taking cigarette butts and took him from all over it and so we um that it's beautiful in that way because we couldn't just say it all came from manatee county all my friends collected probably 50 pounds of

can all kinds of viruses can be trapped in these asbestos type filters okay i mean we don't we didn't know what they were it says they isolate it later i didn't so you were taking cigarette butts and took him from all over it and so we um that it's beautiful in that way because we couldn't just say it all came from manatee county all my friends collected probably 50 pounds of

Yes. What I was giving them wouldn't have killed the virus. It would have killed almost any bacteria and all that. Anything left. And since they were germ-free, something got them. And then they found out that the mice had that.

Yes. What I was giving them wouldn't have killed the virus. It would have killed almost any bacteria and all that. Anything left. And since they were germ-free, something got them. And then they found out that the mice had that.

Well, they were tested, but the reason I don't bring this up is I don't have the documents for that.

Well, they were tested, but the reason I don't bring this up is I don't have the documents for that.

But they understood after they did the testing. That's why I was sent for fast-track training and all that, especially to work with that virus.

But they understood after they did the testing. That's why I was sent for fast-track training and all that, especially to work with that virus.

They did, yeah.

They did, yeah.

See, I had to crash this seminar. I couldn't get anybody to do the proper lecture microscope work. It had to be done to determine the virus, kind of whatever was in there.

See, I had to crash this seminar. I couldn't get anybody to do the proper lecture microscope work. It had to be done to determine the virus, kind of whatever was in there.

No. Now, that's what my enemies have said. Oh, straight from high school.

No. Now, that's what my enemies have said. Oh, straight from high school.

Because they tried to claim that I didn't get the special training. Oh, okay.

Because they tried to claim that I didn't get the special training. Oh, okay.

Right, but more. Then I went from there. And you have something abstract. I wanted to tell you what's going on there because it's really important. I gave you a document there.

Right, but more. Then I went from there. And you have something abstract. I wanted to tell you what's going on there because it's really important. I gave you a document there.

And the document says... It should show, sister.

And the document says... It should show, sister.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

All right. You saw the document, so I'm just going to say it this way. Yeah. I am doing research, good cancer research under Eli Lilly. I sanded you an abstract showing you. But today, that same St. Francis University claims I never did any cancer research.

All right. You saw the document, so I'm just going to say it this way. Yeah. I am doing research, good cancer research under Eli Lilly. I sanded you an abstract showing you. But today, that same St. Francis University claims I never did any cancer research.

And I gave you.

And I gave you.

Oh, yeah. That's just give you an idea of those kind of. Oops. Yeah. So when we're talking about scary, you can understand why they want to move what I was doing under the stadium away from.

Oh, yeah. That's just give you an idea of those kind of. Oops. Yeah. So when we're talking about scary, you can understand why they want to move what I was doing under the stadium away from.

That's right. In seven days, it gets that size. That is a mouse.

That's right. In seven days, it gets that size. That is a mouse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right. So, I mean, it's terrible, of course. Yeah. All right.

All right. So, I mean, it's terrible, of course. Yeah. All right.

Well, just go down the abstract.

Well, just go down the abstract.

Please. No, I can just do it a little faster. Okay. All right. Studies in the increase in vitro of mitotic activity in melanogenesis in the RPMI number 57113 strain Milano. Okay, it says Judith Ferry and Sister Clara Francis, because I was a minor and I had to have someone with me. Yeah. But this is from, obviously, from St. Francis College, you know?

Please. No, I can just do it a little faster. Okay. All right. Studies in the increase in vitro of mitotic activity in melanogenesis in the RPMI number 57113 strain Milano. Okay, it says Judith Ferry and Sister Clara Francis, because I was a minor and I had to have someone with me. Yeah. But this is from, obviously, from St. Francis College, you know?

But now, I gave you a document showing that they claim, according to them, that they never did any such research. I think I gave you a little piece of paper there to read. This?

But now, I gave you a document showing that they claim, according to them, that they never did any such research. I think I gave you a little piece of paper there to read. This?

Oh, all right. Of course. Of course. All right. I was actually being shepherded by... People very high up that were associated with the CIA. And these were eminent doctors. They were very well known. Like today, if you talk about Fauci, say it was Fauci shepherding me. So they were very prestigious, the top of the top.

Oh, all right. Of course. Of course. All right. I was actually being shepherded by... People very high up that were associated with the CIA. And these were eminent doctors. They were very well known. Like today, if you talk about Fauci, say it was Fauci shepherding me. So they were very prestigious, the top of the top.

Yeah, because they claimed that no research was done, that there was never any Sister Mary Veronica who gave me a scholarship, and that they claimed I said I was 16. Other things are not true.

Yeah, because they claimed that no research was done, that there was never any Sister Mary Veronica who gave me a scholarship, and that they claimed I said I was 16. Other things are not true.

Yeah, that's an original.

Yeah, that's an original.

Yeah, from an investigator who asked them. Go ahead and read it.

Yeah, from an investigator who asked them. Go ahead and read it.

Sister Mary Veronica.

Sister Mary Veronica.

Yeah. So they lied and said, I never did any research there. I've got some other papers I could show you, but you know, that's the one. I mean, it was, yeah.

Yeah. So they lied and said, I never did any research there. I've got some other papers I could show you, but you know, that's the one. I mean, it was, yeah.

So Eli Lilly gave them a brand new parking lot for a million dollars right after that.

So Eli Lilly gave them a brand new parking lot for a million dollars right after that.

Yeah. So we... The background, I'm using this as an example of how everything I did has been scrubbed.

Yeah. So we... The background, I'm using this as an example of how everything I did has been scrubbed.

Almost all over. That's why I'm focusing on this, because some of them you looked at, I've said things I can't prove except that I have internal documents.

Almost all over. That's why I'm focusing on this, because some of them you looked at, I've said things I can't prove except that I have internal documents.

All right, so quickly I'll say, Mr. Rosoff, I finally got a chance to talk with Sister Jo Ellen. While we do have a record of a Judith Ann Vary having attended St. Francis, all right, All the other information in the letter is inaccurate. Sister Mary Veronica has not taught here or been an administrator, and I showed you the letter from her. Yeah.

All right, so quickly I'll say, Mr. Rosoff, I finally got a chance to talk with Sister Jo Ellen. While we do have a record of a Judith Ann Vary having attended St. Francis, all right, All the other information in the letter is inaccurate. Sister Mary Veronica has not taught here or been an administrator, and I showed you the letter from her. Yeah.

We did not have sisters who were doctors or research technologists. You saw the one that's in the abstract there. Sister, what's her face?

We did not have sisters who were doctors or research technologists. You saw the one that's in the abstract there. Sister, what's her face?

Right. And we did not do cancer research.

Right. And we did not do cancer research.

okay all right sister ellen and her doctoral dissertation on the history of the school however knows nothing of the situation judith mentions that's why so i'm using as an example of what they've done all along the line to get rid of me then they say she's not in the record okay all right so that's the easiest one to to show you what's going on all right all right now all right so i've got all this special training sure

okay all right sister ellen and her doctoral dissertation on the history of the school however knows nothing of the situation judith mentions that's why so i'm using as an example of what they've done all along the line to get rid of me then they say she's not in the record okay all right so that's the easiest one to to show you what's going on all right all right now all right so i've got all this special training sure

They put a lot of money in me. I have memorized the RPMI 1640 formula, which still hadn't gotten out to the public yet and still had some more tweaking to do. But it was the best formula in the world for growing cancer cells faster than anything.

They put a lot of money in me. I have memorized the RPMI 1640 formula, which still hadn't gotten out to the public yet and still had some more tweaking to do. But it was the best formula in the world for growing cancer cells faster than anything.

And so they brought me to New Orleans. Now, wait a minute. And here I'm running around with strippers.

And so they brought me to New Orleans. Now, wait a minute. And here I'm running around with strippers.

And they can't send some ugly, dirty old man or doc, you know, to intercept me. They're out of town. I came two weeks early. I was free. And I hadn't been. These people had trained me to the... Like I haven't even mentioned training at University of Florida where I also invented a new way to detect cancer in bloodstream and some other stuff.

And they can't send some ugly, dirty old man or doc, you know, to intercept me. They're out of town. I came two weeks early. I was free. And I hadn't been. These people had trained me to the... Like I haven't even mentioned training at University of Florida where I also invented a new way to detect cancer in bloodstream and some other stuff.

Yeah. So I was doing stuff that would turn out that detection of live cancer in the bloodstream. They needed me later when they were trying to kill so-called volunteers for cancer research that came from Angola prison.

Yeah. So I was doing stuff that would turn out that detection of live cancer in the bloodstream. They needed me later when they were trying to kill so-called volunteers for cancer research that came from Angola prison.

I handed you a document showing from Dick Russell about Dr. Heath. I sent you a picture of Dr. Heath with monkeys and all that.

I handed you a document showing from Dick Russell about Dr. Heath. I sent you a picture of Dr. Heath with monkeys and all that.

Yeah. Well, he was working with Dr. Silva. Dr. Silva was at Jackson Hospital and, of course, claimed that.

Yeah. Well, he was working with Dr. Silva. Dr. Silva was at Jackson Hospital and, of course, claimed that.

That's right. You see that stop? Well, Dr. Silva is not in that picture, but Dr. Heath is. Dr. Heath works with David Ferry. There's an awful lot of stuff that people don't know about David Ferry. You'll see him in the film JFK. And we became close friends. Why? I wanted to become a nun. The reason I went to St. Francis is I found out they would put me through medical school.

That's right. You see that stop? Well, Dr. Silva is not in that picture, but Dr. Heath is. Dr. Heath works with David Ferry. There's an awful lot of stuff that people don't know about David Ferry. You'll see him in the film JFK. And we became close friends. Why? I wanted to become a nun. The reason I went to St. Francis is I found out they would put me through medical school.

And I had not admitted it to myself because I was being specially trained, fast-tracked, because I'll tell you why later. But the bottom line is, is I came early to New Orleans because I couldn't go home, which I'm going to explain later. And I was free. They weren't ready for me. They were out of town.

And I had not admitted it to myself because I was being specially trained, fast-tracked, because I'll tell you why later. But the bottom line is, is I came early to New Orleans because I couldn't go home, which I'm going to explain later. And I was free. They weren't ready for me. They were out of town.

It'd be just super, you know, no problem. All right. Anyway, now, I was a...

It'd be just super, you know, no problem. All right. Anyway, now, I was a...

That's something out of a horror movie. Believe me, we killed about 150,000. Could you imagine if aliens did that to us? I know. Just think about it. We've got to reform things. You have no idea how much I admire Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He knows all the stuff. All right, this is a letter. You can just look at it. This confirms that I was sent...

That's something out of a horror movie. Believe me, we killed about 150,000. Could you imagine if aliens did that to us? I know. Just think about it. We've got to reform things. You have no idea how much I admire Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He knows all the stuff. All right, this is a letter. You can just look at it. This confirms that I was sent...

I told her before, Lee, this is one of my schoolmate chums at University of Florida. We were taking medical courses together. She's now Dr. Kathy Santee.

I told her before, Lee, this is one of my schoolmate chums at University of Florida. We were taking medical courses together. She's now Dr. Kathy Santee.

And you can read there, it says, I told her I was going to go to New Orleans because Dr. Ochsner wanted me there and I'd be entering Ochsner Medical School, which is actually Tulane Medical School.

And you can read there, it says, I told her I was going to go to New Orleans because Dr. Ochsner wanted me there and I'd be entering Ochsner Medical School, which is actually Tulane Medical School.

Skip two years. It'd be just the last two years of medical there. I'd skip college and everything. Now, of course I had the incentive and I'd be working with the wonderful Dr. Mary Sherman. So of course I went. Doctor, excuse me, I don't know whether I gave you, there's so much stuff and we don't have enough time.

Skip two years. It'd be just the last two years of medical there. I'd skip college and everything. Now, of course I had the incentive and I'd be working with the wonderful Dr. Mary Sherman. So of course I went. Doctor, excuse me, I don't know whether I gave you, there's so much stuff and we don't have enough time.

Oh, actually, I tried to meet her at David Ferry's.

Oh, actually, I tried to meet her at David Ferry's.

Oh my gosh, she's famous. It's like Fauci or something today.

Oh my gosh, she's famous. It's like Fauci or something today.

No, positive.

No, positive.

I mean, everybody thought the world of her, but she knew Sarah Stewart. She knew these other wonderful... She was an expert on... What was she famous for? She was an orthopedic surgeon who was working with polio patients' kids. She was working with Dr. Ochsner when Ochsner lost his grandson.

I mean, everybody thought the world of her, but she knew Sarah Stewart. She knew these other wonderful... She was an expert on... What was she famous for? She was an orthopedic surgeon who was working with polio patients' kids. She was working with Dr. Ochsner when Ochsner lost his grandson.

And they decided to work together to try and conquer this horrible thing that happened with this contamination.

And they decided to work together to try and conquer this horrible thing that happened with this contamination.

Well, this is Cutter. It's a version of Salk.

Well, this is Cutter. It's a version of Salk.

And don't believe it that every time that they talk about that they have made it so this... Polio virus is incapacitated. You know, it's still there, but so it will elicit an immune response. But don't believe the fact that they always kill all of it or they make it so it's not going to give polio. It happens all the time, every once in a while.

And don't believe it that every time that they talk about that they have made it so this... Polio virus is incapacitated. You know, it's still there, but so it will elicit an immune response. But don't believe the fact that they always kill all of it or they make it so it's not going to give polio. It happens all the time, every once in a while.

So you can eradicate polio and then keep giving them polio shots and polio will come back. Because you're going to find, let's say 99.99% of the time, what they give you is safe. And then this one didn't get inactivated. Let me explain about, for example, the virus. Now this has nothing to do with, they should allow me to say this, okay? Anywhere.

So you can eradicate polio and then keep giving them polio shots and polio will come back. Because you're going to find, let's say 99.99% of the time, what they give you is safe. And then this one didn't get inactivated. Let me explain about, for example, the virus. Now this has nothing to do with, they should allow me to say this, okay? Anywhere.

Instead of being met with a steak dinner, I've always mentioned that before in other interviews, and champagne and say, you're here. We love you. We'll show you around. And I go to YMCA where I expected a room to myself. And they said, who are you? My first thoughts, I don't have any money. I'm between semesters. My grant money, I don't have it.

Instead of being met with a steak dinner, I've always mentioned that before in other interviews, and champagne and say, you're here. We love you. We'll show you around. And I go to YMCA where I expected a room to myself. And they said, who are you? My first thoughts, I don't have any money. I'm between semesters. My grant money, I don't have it.

Most viruses are RNA viruses. Ribose. They're not DNA. They don't live in the cell inside of your body. I mean, I'm talking about the nucleus. They're on the outside, and they can't affect your DNA. But the virus is different. It is a DNA virus. It can literally penetrate your cell. That is your nucleus. But it's itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny. Now,

Most viruses are RNA viruses. Ribose. They're not DNA. They don't live in the cell inside of your body. I mean, I'm talking about the nucleus. They're on the outside, and they can't affect your DNA. But the virus is different. It is a DNA virus. It can literally penetrate your cell. That is your nucleus. But it's itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny. Now,

When they go and kill all these, they're used to RNA viruses. Oh, you put them in formaldehyde, you know, as you're making your material to make the shots you want to, you know. Just go ahead and put them in formaldehyde for seven days. They're dead. It takes 30 days in formaldehyde. They didn't know that.

When they go and kill all these, they're used to RNA viruses. Oh, you put them in formaldehyde, you know, as you're making your material to make the shots you want to, you know. Just go ahead and put them in formaldehyde for seven days. They're dead. It takes 30 days in formaldehyde. They didn't know that.

The polio virus is clean and doesn't have the contaminations. They grew the virus on top of chopped up monkey kidneys.

The polio virus is clean and doesn't have the contaminations. They grew the virus on top of chopped up monkey kidneys.

The monkey kidneys, they're stupid from the beginning because the monkey kidneys carry so many viruses. This thing was called the number 40. They had 39 other viruses. There was a bunch of them, right.

The monkey kidneys, they're stupid from the beginning because the monkey kidneys carry so many viruses. This thing was called the number 40. They had 39 other viruses. There was a bunch of them, right.

There are more.

There are more.

But this is the one that stood out. It was absolutely.

But this is the one that stood out. It was absolutely.

Well, that's the problem. What if you didn't weaken some of them enough?

Well, that's the problem. What if you didn't weaken some of them enough?

Sure.

Sure.

Well, the idea, if it's dead, maybe the body's immune system is not going to respond to it.

Well, the idea, if it's dead, maybe the body's immune system is not going to respond to it.

And, yeah. But all of these have their faults and flaws. They simply, we have got to get a different mindset. We need to get away from thinking we can solve everything through the immune system and through shots. It's dangerous. We're going too far. I have a lot of people that agree with me that we need to rethink everything. How would we rethink it?

And, yeah. But all of these have their faults and flaws. They simply, we have got to get a different mindset. We need to get away from thinking we can solve everything through the immune system and through shots. It's dangerous. We're going too far. I have a lot of people that agree with me that we need to rethink everything. How would we rethink it?

Well, you've been taught that everything can be solved with a shot.

Well, you've been taught that everything can be solved with a shot.

I'm talking about big pharma.

I'm talking about big pharma.

Let me tell you what's really going on.

Let me tell you what's really going on.

All right. Because it's a little bit worse than that. The theory is excellent. All right. It works to some extent.

All right. Because it's a little bit worse than that. The theory is excellent. All right. It works to some extent.

Well, I would say that it's obsolete as far as to what's really going on. Just like we know we don't have really ether up there. We have black matter and so on. So we need to upgrade our thinking on this. What we have is the presence of a virus. Let's say it's polio, okay?

Well, I would say that it's obsolete as far as to what's really going on. Just like we know we don't have really ether up there. We have black matter and so on. So we need to upgrade our thinking on this. What we have is the presence of a virus. Let's say it's polio, okay?

But the body, if we went to a respiratory virus, for example, and that goes into your system, you get an immune response to deal with it, right? So the idea of shots is that you're going to put this stuff in the body and it's going to have an immune response. And that this stuff is not as dangerous as a real thing would be.

But the body, if we went to a respiratory virus, for example, and that goes into your system, you get an immune response to deal with it, right? So the idea of shots is that you're going to put this stuff in the body and it's going to have an immune response. And that this stuff is not as dangerous as a real thing would be.

That's not always the case.

That's not always the case.

And, wow, my first thought, oh, no, I'm in this room with two strippers, a Playboy Bunny trainee, and this really profane, heavyset waitress who, she was going to steal my stuff. We had to pay her $0.25 a day so she wouldn't steal our stuff. All right, so I'm in that room, but the stripper said, honey, you haven't seen the world, have you? I said, no.

And, wow, my first thought, oh, no, I'm in this room with two strippers, a Playboy Bunny trainee, and this really profane, heavyset waitress who, she was going to steal my stuff. We had to pay her $0.25 a day so she wouldn't steal our stuff. All right, so I'm in that room, but the stripper said, honey, you haven't seen the world, have you? I said, no.

That's right.

That's right.

And not only that, but mutations occur. And in the respiratory virus world, that's exactly what they do forever. You can't even... One flu season, it's already going to change to something else.

And not only that, but mutations occur. And in the respiratory virus world, that's exactly what they do forever. You can't even... One flu season, it's already going to change to something else.

Well, here's the thing. So you've got a percentage of immune response. It's not enough to sell the product. So they put something else on top of it to top it off to make an immune response and say it's for the whole thing. But it's not. It's not for just the virus. They add this stuff on top and that's artificially making a response that has nothing to do with the original response.

Well, here's the thing. So you've got a percentage of immune response. It's not enough to sell the product. So they put something else on top of it to top it off to make an immune response and say it's for the whole thing. But it's not. It's not for just the virus. They add this stuff on top and that's artificially making a response that has nothing to do with the original response.

That's why you have to get boosters.

That's why you have to get boosters.

And then it can sell boosters forever.

And then it can sell boosters forever.

Well, I was very much pro all these shots and everything, okay, until I realized that we have never cured cancer. Then I realized that we're making a lot of money with shots. Sure. And a lot of money in what we call the cancer treatment industry and cancer treatment palaces. Yes.

Well, I was very much pro all these shots and everything, okay, until I realized that we have never cured cancer. Then I realized that we're making a lot of money with shots. Sure. And a lot of money in what we call the cancer treatment industry and cancer treatment palaces. Yes.

But those big palaces being built and with all their industry associated with treatment, where are all the palaces being built to cure it? There's no incentive whatsoever to cure and there won't be. We could have cured cancer. I know how to cure cancer. How? Bacteriophage.

But those big palaces being built and with all their industry associated with treatment, where are all the palaces being built to cure it? There's no incentive whatsoever to cure and there won't be. We could have cured cancer. I know how to cure cancer. How? Bacteriophage.

See, bacteriophage.

See, bacteriophage.

Bacteria, phage means to eat in Greek.

Bacteria, phage means to eat in Greek.

So you've got a virus that eats bacteria, but also these viruses are allowed, they actually can eat viruses.

So you've got a virus that eats bacteria, but also these viruses are allowed, they actually can eat viruses.

No. Viruses. Bacteriophage is a virus that eats bacteria.

No. Viruses. Bacteriophage is a virus that eats bacteria.

But, yes, they use it in all the sewer systems. Think of all the diseases that go into our filthy sewage and everything.

But, yes, they use it in all the sewer systems. Think of all the diseases that go into our filthy sewage and everything.

Wikipedia? Don't you use Wikipedia?

Wikipedia? Don't you use Wikipedia?

Wikipedia for spooks. Just put up bacteriophage and just go to images because then you can see it.

Wikipedia for spooks. Just put up bacteriophage and just go to images because then you can see it.

Okay.

Okay.

It's very simple. The reason that they don't use it is too easy. Too easy to cure cancer with it. They can't make any money.

It's very simple. The reason that they don't use it is too easy. Too easy to cure cancer with it. They can't make any money.

Anyway, you can engineer them very easily, too easily. They can't patent them because you can easily engineer them 10 different ways to cure cancer.

Anyway, you can engineer them very easily, too easily. They can't patent them because you can easily engineer them 10 different ways to cure cancer.

Now, what's wonderful about bacteriophages is once they eat it all up, so they eat up all the cancer cells, leave a bag of pus behind, so to speak, if it's a tumor. All right. Well, aspirate that out with a needle. Big deal. They go to sleep. They don't wake up until they brush against a cancer again.

Now, what's wonderful about bacteriophages is once they eat it all up, so they eat up all the cancer cells, leave a bag of pus behind, so to speak, if it's a tumor. All right. Well, aspirate that out with a needle. Big deal. They go to sleep. They don't wake up until they brush against a cancer again.

That's right.

That's right.

Well, we were doing that in 1961 in Roswell Park. We were working with Bacteria 5.

Well, we were doing that in 1961 in Roswell Park. We were working with Bacteria 5.

Mice, monkeys, we use marmosets actually there. That's in between. Okay. Yeah. Marmosets are easy and fast and cheap.

Mice, monkeys, we use marmosets actually there. That's in between. Okay. Yeah. Marmosets are easy and fast and cheap.

Gave them cancer.

Gave them cancer.

Well, this is special, but it only took a few months to create it. So you can't patent this stuff because it's so easy to make.

Well, this is special, but it only took a few months to create it. So you can't patent this stuff because it's so easy to make.

Well, they survived. It went away. And then Marmer says they have a short life, but if the cancer restarted up again, the bacteria woke up. Bacteriophage.

Well, they survived. It went away. And then Marmer says they have a short life, but if the cancer restarted up again, the bacteria woke up. Bacteriophage.

He said, how would you like to come around with us? Now, I'm an asset. I've been heavily trained. And here I am now seeing the seediest parts of New Orleans. I mean, when I stepped off the bus, the first thing I heard was a gunshot. You have to understand what it was like.

He said, how would you like to come around with us? Now, I'm an asset. I've been heavily trained. And here I am now seeing the seediest parts of New Orleans. I mean, when I stepped off the bus, the first thing I heard was a gunshot. You have to understand what it was like.

And we can't get – I've been trying since 1999. We have one company that has – you know what they did? They have trained bacteriophage to go to cancer cells and guess what?

And we can't get – I've been trying since 1999. We have one company that has – you know what they did? They have trained bacteriophage to go to cancer cells and guess what?

piggyback in inject in chemo that they can go in and which is deadly and poisonous yeah so here they've trained there's this uh bacteriophage to actually go to the cells but not to kill the cells now it take thousands of them but they're little tiny they're like little mosquitoes They work. You see how simple they are. There are three major.

piggyback in inject in chemo that they can go in and which is deadly and poisonous yeah so here they've trained there's this uh bacteriophage to actually go to the cells but not to kill the cells now it take thousands of them but they're little tiny they're like little mosquitoes They work. You see how simple they are. There are three major.

The first things that we created artificially was a virus, the bacteriophage, and the polio virus. Now ask yourself, why would they create these artificially? These three, these are the first they ever created artificially. Wow. You see what I'm saying?

The first things that we created artificially was a virus, the bacteriophage, and the polio virus. Now ask yourself, why would they create these artificially? These three, these are the first they ever created artificially. Wow. You see what I'm saying?

Okay, let's keep going.

Okay, let's keep going.

So anyway, there's an awful lot of that. Now here, Lee Oswald is assigned. Oh my gosh, we've got so much to talk about.

So anyway, there's an awful lot of that. Now here, Lee Oswald is assigned. Oh my gosh, we've got so much to talk about.

All right. So they send him. He's cute. now i was thought i was in love with a guy okay and this guy let me show i'm gonna we're gonna have to really move into different areas and i had thought but let me see if i can find what i had excuse me um Yeah, I'm going to show you this.

All right. So they send him. He's cute. now i was thought i was in love with a guy okay and this guy let me show i'm gonna we're gonna have to really move into different areas and i had thought but let me see if i can find what i had excuse me um Yeah, I'm going to show you this.

See? Not only can you get them there. I mean, they're not even talking about the fact, why don't you let them attack the cancer? They can, you see. Wow. And here they can train them to go there. We're not going to use them because El Cheapo can't patent it because it's easy to just do a minor little twist, you know. Yeah. So they won't go there. Wow.

See? Not only can you get them there. I mean, they're not even talking about the fact, why don't you let them attack the cancer? They can, you see. Wow. And here they can train them to go there. We're not going to use them because El Cheapo can't patent it because it's easy to just do a minor little twist, you know. Yeah. So they won't go there. Wow.

If you cure cancer, all those palaces are going to go down. If you cure cancer.

If you cure cancer, all those palaces are going to go down. If you cure cancer.

You want to know why my voice is being silenced.

You want to know why my voice is being silenced.

Billions of dollars are at risk. Billions. And I'm just one little voice. They've erased. I can't get my own birth certificate. Mine says female. Oh, I can't. I don't.

Billions of dollars are at risk. Billions. And I'm just one little voice. They've erased. I can't get my own birth certificate. Mine says female. Oh, I can't. I don't.

I have in my book, you can see my birth certificates I've tried. The most recent said that my father's last name is Ward, W-A-R-D. I could go on like that. Can't use it. People say how evil you are because you were married, new married, and here you start having an affair with Lee Oswald. Well, I was married one day when my husband abandoned me.

I have in my book, you can see my birth certificates I've tried. The most recent said that my father's last name is Ward, W-A-R-D. I could go on like that. Can't use it. People say how evil you are because you were married, new married, and here you start having an affair with Lee Oswald. Well, I was married one day when my husband abandoned me.

He said, I'm not going to tell you where I'm going because you wouldn't have married me if I told you I'm going to be on most of the summer. He said, bye-bye. I'm not going to tell you where I am. He took off. But that night, where I lived, was raided by the police.

He said, I'm not going to tell you where I'm going because you wouldn't have married me if I told you I'm going to be on most of the summer. He said, bye-bye. I'm not going to tell you where I am. He took off. But that night, where I lived, was raided by the police.

Well, I was heavily trained in how to handle specific viruses that were being developed for biological weapon purposes.

Well, I was heavily trained in how to handle specific viruses that were being developed for biological weapon purposes.

By the way, we've gone to the house where the raid occurred, went with researchers, always had to have witnesses, and told them what happened long, long ago. It turned out Lee Oswald had put me in a house of ill repute. Now, he'd been in New Orleans for 10 years. He thought it was a nice boarding house, but it had changed, okay? And actually went to the owner. By the way, very fancy place.

By the way, we've gone to the house where the raid occurred, went with researchers, always had to have witnesses, and told them what happened long, long ago. It turned out Lee Oswald had put me in a house of ill repute. Now, he'd been in New Orleans for 10 years. He thought it was a nice boarding house, but it had changed, okay? And actually went to the owner. By the way, very fancy place.

I have a picture of it. We don't have time for everything, but it's very fancy. It's in my book.

I have a picture of it. We don't have time for everything, but it's very fancy. It's in my book.

All right. Yes, but I'm going to show you something.

All right. Yes, but I'm going to show you something.

I want you to read this postcard.

I want you to read this postcard.

Robert Baker, my husband. For a day. All right. Now, I've been married a month to him. Now, notice on this, it says it is from New Orleans. Please turn the picture over so you can see the other side. You can show that to everybody.

Robert Baker, my husband. For a day. All right. Now, I've been married a month to him. Now, notice on this, it says it is from New Orleans. Please turn the picture over so you can see the other side. You can show that to everybody.

Right. Okay. Now, where am I living? I'm living in New Orleans.

Right. Okay. Now, where am I living? I'm living in New Orleans.

He's dropping a postcard as he's coming through New Orleans. He doesn't have time to visit me. That's my new husband. Go ahead and read it.

He's dropping a postcard as he's coming through New Orleans. He doesn't have time to visit me. That's my new husband. Go ahead and read it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is my new husband.

This is my new husband.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. How would you like to get a postcard from your new husband that you don't know where he is or what he's doing? He'll be through in a couple days of wham, bam, thank you, ma'am, okay?

Yeah. How would you like to get a postcard from your new husband that you don't know where he is or what he's doing? He'll be through in a couple days of wham, bam, thank you, ma'am, okay?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Now, anybody think that I get raided, I have nobody to help me.

Now, anybody think that I get raided, I have nobody to help me.

Well, he's a scientist. His IQ was so high it was classified.

Well, he's a scientist. His IQ was so high it was classified.

That's right. And I have all the proof.

That's right. And I have all the proof.

Yes. But anyway, he ended up being one of the top scientists for, no, at that time he was still getting all his credentials.

Yes. But anyway, he ended up being one of the top scientists for, no, at that time he was still getting all his credentials.

Oh, no, no. I knew it.

Oh, no, no. I knew it.

I couldn't find anybody compatible with. You have to understand.

I couldn't find anybody compatible with. You have to understand.

Well, I was 19.

Well, I was 19.

No, I didn't meet him in New Orleans. I met him at University of Florida because I was taking high math classes and all that's been wiped out. And I met him in one of the classes that summer. And I had plenty of boyfriends. I was very athletic as well and had earned four athletic medals at University of Florida and all that. And later he would tell one of my sons, I married her for her legs.

No, I didn't meet him in New Orleans. I met him at University of Florida because I was taking high math classes and all that's been wiped out. And I met him in one of the classes that summer. And I had plenty of boyfriends. I was very athletic as well and had earned four athletic medals at University of Florida and all that. And later he would tell one of my sons, I married her for her legs.

So anyway.

So anyway.

Yeah, they still are good. I could show you.

Yeah, they still are good. I could show you.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

I'm just trying to say that I was very liberal-minded. I was a good girl. I didn't run around. But I had a lot of boyfriends. University of Florida has just gotten to where they were co-ed just 10 years earlier. And it's engineering and science. I'm sorry, but most of the girls there looked like they had horse faces. Really? Well, I don't know why. Yeah.

I'm just trying to say that I was very liberal-minded. I was a good girl. I didn't run around. But I had a lot of boyfriends. University of Florida has just gotten to where they were co-ed just 10 years earlier. And it's engineering and science. I'm sorry, but most of the girls there looked like they had horse faces. Really? Well, I don't know why. Yeah.

but i didn't right you were hot you were one of the hot ones yeah and so i had all these boyfriends but i i didn't want to ruin my reputation i told each of those boys i've got a problem please you know look at these other guys please protect me from these other guys i told every one of them that so it but you know so i had a good reputation and i earned it but he was different he ended up seducing me because he could beat me in chess

but i didn't right you were hot you were one of the hot ones yeah and so i had all these boyfriends but i i didn't want to ruin my reputation i told each of those boys i've got a problem please you know look at these other guys please protect me from these other guys i told every one of them that so it but you know so i had a good reputation and i earned it but he was different he ended up seducing me because he could beat me in chess

Yeah, here's a picture of... See this? My grandmother died in October of 1956.

Yeah, here's a picture of... See this? My grandmother died in October of 1956.

Well, I'll put it this way. Just like me, he was being handled. And, you know, we didn't. Now, all they were interested in was for mathematics. He would end up being one of the top forever. Exxon made probably billions because of him. If I told you all the stuff he invented, you'd still see some of the stuff online.

Well, I'll put it this way. Just like me, he was being handled. And, you know, we didn't. Now, all they were interested in was for mathematics. He would end up being one of the top forever. Exxon made probably billions because of him. If I told you all the stuff he invented, you'd still see some of the stuff online.

Anyway, he took off, and if he's interested in something that's more important than I was, that's just the way it was.

Anyway, he took off, and if he's interested in something that's more important than I was, that's just the way it was.

So he abandoned me. I had nobody. I had this phone number. Lee Oswald met me at the post office when I was looking for letters from him. He's supposed to write every day. Is he going to come and marry me? Maybe. Like Lee said, love him to the death.

So he abandoned me. I had nobody. I had this phone number. Lee Oswald met me at the post office when I was looking for letters from him. He's supposed to write every day. Is he going to come and marry me? Maybe. Like Lee said, love him to the death.

All right. I'm at the post office. By the way, I didn't have any money because I came two weeks early. My grant, I didn't have it, a stipend or anything. So I actually got a job. flipping burgers, so to speak, because this waitress, she was stopping the job out there and got it raised to where she could work in town. This is 45 minutes.

All right. I'm at the post office. By the way, I didn't have any money because I came two weeks early. My grant, I didn't have it, a stipend or anything. So I actually got a job. flipping burgers, so to speak, because this waitress, she was stopping the job out there and got it raised to where she could work in town. This is 45 minutes.

She died of cancer. My grandfather was dying of cancer. And I was determined with all my heart to love my grandmother so much. In fact, her picture is on my credit card.

She died of cancer. My grandfather was dying of cancer. And I was determined with all my heart to love my grandmother so much. In fact, her picture is on my credit card.

Now, who goes and gets on a bus, goes 45 minutes out to work just two hours, just enough to pay for my room, you know, and come back 45. Lee Oswald thought I was out there. Bobby Kennedy was at the Royal Castle where I was working. I had sent monitors there because Carlos Marcelo, the godfather, was right next door just a few blocks down. And this was open 24 hours.

Now, who goes and gets on a bus, goes 45 minutes out to work just two hours, just enough to pay for my room, you know, and come back 45. Lee Oswald thought I was out there. Bobby Kennedy was at the Royal Castle where I was working. I had sent monitors there because Carlos Marcelo, the godfather, was right next door just a few blocks down. And this was open 24 hours.

Lee thought because I was only going out there in the morning for two hours and back just crazy. You know, what, for $2? I mean, who does that? Thought I was a courier. All this started because when he was sent to meet me, they don't give you all the information. It's just need to know. All he knew about me is I was a cancer researcher that was supposed to work with Dr. Mary Sherman.

Lee thought because I was only going out there in the morning for two hours and back just crazy. You know, what, for $2? I mean, who does that? Thought I was a courier. All this started because when he was sent to meet me, they don't give you all the information. It's just need to know. All he knew about me is I was a cancer researcher that was supposed to work with Dr. Mary Sherman.

And David Ferry told me, told him to go and meet me. That's all he knew.

And David Ferry told me, told him to go and meet me. That's all he knew.

Yes. But I didn't know that at the time. They want to stop this, me running around with these hookers and things, you know, that I was doing without realizing I'd never, I mean, I got to, I had my first drink, you know, and everything. All right. So, so anyway, I'm angry because there's no letter.

Yes. But I didn't know that at the time. They want to stop this, me running around with these hookers and things, you know, that I was doing without realizing I'd never, I mean, I got to, I had my first drink, you know, and everything. All right. So, so anyway, I'm angry because there's no letter.

He's, the man said he's going to write me every day and he's going to tell her he's going to come marry me. Well, I don't need him. I mean, you know, if you don't want to marry, big deal.

He's, the man said he's going to write me every day and he's going to tell her he's going to come marry me. Well, I don't need him. I mean, you know, if you don't want to marry, big deal.

Okay. It's sort of like that. Yeah. I got, I got pawed over like crazy. Yeah. And so I sure did want that kind of life. Excuse me. I can't see very well. Okay.

Okay. It's sort of like that. Yeah. I got, I got pawed over like crazy. Yeah. And so I sure did want that kind of life. Excuse me. I can't see very well. Okay.

Thank you. Okay. So here I am and I turn around this nice looking guy behind me. Dressed, you know, real decent, kind of cute. I had been carrying around a rolled-up newspaper that had code on it because Robert Baker didn't want his family to know that he was dating me because they were anti-Catholic and they thought I was Catholic. Now, I had given up on Catholicism.

Thank you. Okay. So here I am and I turn around this nice looking guy behind me. Dressed, you know, real decent, kind of cute. I had been carrying around a rolled-up newspaper that had code on it because Robert Baker didn't want his family to know that he was dating me because they were anti-Catholic and they thought I was Catholic. Now, I had given up on Catholicism.

Yeah. And her memory and the magnificent woman she was, and she was wiped out by cancer and suffered.

Yeah. And her memory and the magnificent woman she was, and she was wiped out by cancer and suffered.

I had become an atheist because when I was at St. Francis University, my father came up there and kidnapped me to get me out of the convent. Mm-hmm. And so it was horrible, and since God didn't want me, I believed there was no God, you know. It was a big deal. I offered my life to God, and what happened? I didn't realize how God was going to use me.

I had become an atheist because when I was at St. Francis University, my father came up there and kidnapped me to get me out of the convent. Mm-hmm. And so it was horrible, and since God didn't want me, I believed there was no God, you know. It was a big deal. I offered my life to God, and what happened? I didn't realize how God was going to use me.

So anyway, I'm angry, and there's no letter from this man who says, Mom, I might come marry you. We want birth control pills. I thought I was in love. I was in love with sex. I was introduced to sex by this complete...

So anyway, I'm angry, and there's no letter from this man who says, Mom, I might come marry you. We want birth control pills. I thought I was in love. I was in love with sex. I was introduced to sex by this complete...

mechanically accurate man all right mechanically accurate yeah in other words he knew how to please but it doesn't mean he loved there's a difference oh okay yeah yeah yeah and i didn't know the difference of course because that was the only person i ever knew and i say he seduced me he ran away actually left it if you won't you know be a grown-up in this modern age forget you you know

mechanically accurate man all right mechanically accurate yeah in other words he knew how to please but it doesn't mean he loved there's a difference oh okay yeah yeah yeah and i didn't know the difference of course because that was the only person i ever knew and i say he seduced me he ran away actually left it if you won't you know be a grown-up in this modern age forget you you know

Al, and a month later, he came back and all my friends, I ran into his arms. I said, you win, you know. So that's the way it was. So we're going to get married. Well, we did. He said, we've got to hurry and get married. I thought it was because he loved me. He actually did. He never said, I love you, by the way. So we go to Mobile, Alabama.

Al, and a month later, he came back and all my friends, I ran into his arms. I said, you win, you know. So that's the way it was. So we're going to get married. Well, we did. He said, we've got to hurry and get married. I thought it was because he loved me. He actually did. He never said, I love you, by the way. So we go to Mobile, Alabama.

Then I found out he did that in a hurry because he's got to get on a quarter boat and do scientific research for this group. Okay. So he's gone. And here comes the police raid. I was thrown out in the middle of the street. All right, only number I had was his phone number that Kimberly Oswald. Now back to the post office. He was sent there. I finally figured it out.

Then I found out he did that in a hurry because he's got to get on a quarter boat and do scientific research for this group. Okay. So he's gone. And here comes the police raid. I was thrown out in the middle of the street. All right, only number I had was his phone number that Kimberly Oswald. Now back to the post office. He was sent there. I finally figured it out.

Well, that's no other family members as well.

Well, that's no other family members as well.

It took me years to realize it was on purpose. But anyway, I have this newspaper with a code on it so that Robert knew I arrived in New Orleans without making a phone call that his parents would intercept and say, are you still doing stuff with that Catholic girl, you know? Mm-hmm. And I dropped the newspaper. He picks it up. It's got code on it. I mean, it looks weird.

It took me years to realize it was on purpose. But anyway, I have this newspaper with a code on it so that Robert knew I arrived in New Orleans without making a phone call that his parents would intercept and say, are you still doing stuff with that Catholic girl, you know? Mm-hmm. And I dropped the newspaper. He picks it up. It's got code on it. I mean, it looks weird.

And I thought, I'm going to flirt with this guy. I know Russian. Who knows Russian? I'll say something. He'll say, what did you say? So I'm going to do that. So I go, he picks it up and hands it to me. I go, like that. I thought he'd say, he answered me in Russian. He said, it's not wise to speak Russian in New Orleans.

And I thought, I'm going to flirt with this guy. I know Russian. Who knows Russian? I'll say something. He'll say, what did you say? So I'm going to do that. So I go, he picks it up and hands it to me. I go, like that. I thought he'd say, he answered me in Russian. He said, it's not wise to speak Russian in New Orleans.

It just was endemic. So that was my I was determined. And of course, what can a 15 year old do? I found cancerous fish and they were they were special breed mollies, black mollies. Maybe you didn't know this about them, but they don't get inseminated by the male. The male just excites them, and they only produce from their own eggs without any kind of insemination. Now, they've got a male organ.

It just was endemic. So that was my I was determined. And of course, what can a 15 year old do? I found cancerous fish and they were they were special breed mollies, black mollies. Maybe you didn't know this about them, but they don't get inseminated by the male. The male just excites them, and they only produce from their own eggs without any kind of insemination. Now, they've got a male organ.

This is 1963. This is 63? April 26th, 1963. That's when I met him. Oh my God.

This is 1963. This is 63? April 26th, 1963. That's when I met him. Oh my God.

He's only been back less than a year. But wait a minute. I knew these spies. I told you about one, Tony Lopez Fresqueta. I've dated. His father was the finance minister of Cuba for Fidel Castro.

He's only been back less than a year. But wait a minute. I knew these spies. I told you about one, Tony Lopez Fresqueta. I've dated. His father was the finance minister of Cuba for Fidel Castro.

And he was secretly CIA. I learned so much stuff from Tony. You wouldn't believe. Then I knew all this stuff from Knute Mickelson, who was a CIA guy who taught me all kinds of tradecraft. He thought it was funny. I learned how to do... In invisible ink, all kinds of Lee Oswald thought I was treated by the CIA, but it was by people who liked me. I mean, you know, we were involved and I didn't know.

And he was secretly CIA. I learned so much stuff from Tony. You wouldn't believe. Then I knew all this stuff from Knute Mickelson, who was a CIA guy who taught me all kinds of tradecraft. He thought it was funny. I learned how to do... In invisible ink, all kinds of Lee Oswald thought I was treated by the CIA, but it was by people who liked me. I mean, you know, we were involved and I didn't know.

Wow. So, so when you met him, he thought I was CIA, just like him. He had only given the information to intercept me and make sure I got to meet David Ferry because Mary Sherman would be there and we were supposed to meet.

Wow. So, so when you met him, he thought I was CIA, just like him. He had only given the information to intercept me and make sure I got to meet David Ferry because Mary Sherman would be there and we were supposed to meet.

I dropped the newspaper.

I dropped the newspaper.

Well, it's like this. No, I said it to him. He said, it's not wise to speak Russian in New Orleans. He said, can you wait a minute? And then he asked for stuff for him. He had to pretend to... And so I heard his name. Is there anything here for Mr. Lee H. Oswald? That's the way he said it. So I knew his name right away. And boy, that set off a bell in my head because he was big news in the news.

Well, it's like this. No, I said it to him. He said, it's not wise to speak Russian in New Orleans. He said, can you wait a minute? And then he asked for stuff for him. He had to pretend to... And so I heard his name. Is there anything here for Mr. Lee H. Oswald? That's the way he said it. So I knew his name right away. And boy, that set off a bell in my head because he was big news in the news.

And I remember stuff I read. He was big news in the newspapers, you know. Way back. And his picture there.

And I remember stuff I read. He was big news in the newspapers, you know. Way back. And his picture there.

Well, he was a so-called defector.

Well, he was a so-called defector.

He was front page. Everything had to do with it.

He was front page. Everything had to do with it.

Oh, my gosh, yes. And here he's walking around a free man. No way. I knew too much. And so, you know what I said in the right way? When he said he confirmed that he had been in the USSR for 30 months and he'd come back with a wife and child. I said, you are a hero. You are a shining hero.

Oh, my gosh, yes. And here he's walking around a free man. No way. I knew too much. And so, you know what I said in the right way? When he said he confirmed that he had been in the USSR for 30 months and he'd come back with a wife and child. I said, you are a hero. You are a shining hero.

he he was shocked i knew enough to know who what kind of man he really was uh he wasn't ready for that you know all he knew is i have some kind of asset he's got to make sure and protect till they get back that's all i knew when i say he was a hero it just he dropped his guard he wasn't ready for that he's so he used to you know

he he was shocked i knew enough to know who what kind of man he really was uh he wasn't ready for that you know all he knew is i have some kind of asset he's got to make sure and protect till they get back that's all i knew when i say he was a hero it just he dropped his guard he wasn't ready for that he's so he used to you know

And he had gone through, just like Knut Mikkelsen, his family does not have anything to do with him or anything. They think he's horrible. When he's not, he's one of ours. And to have someone he could talk to, this is how it started. We hit it off right away. Because he thought I was in as deep as he was. It's only because I knew all these words and terms I knew, the acronyms and everything.

And he had gone through, just like Knut Mikkelsen, his family does not have anything to do with him or anything. They think he's horrible. When he's not, he's one of ours. And to have someone he could talk to, this is how it started. We hit it off right away. Because he thought I was in as deep as he was. It's only because I knew all these words and terms I knew, the acronyms and everything.

It's because of the people I associated for... By that time, for two years with Anacastor Patriots, I knew so many things. So by the time he and David Ferry realized, David Ferry had asked for somebody, an assistant, to help. Because it turned out he had to make lots of plane flights to Miami, try and get his pilot's license back. Long story.