Judyth Vary Baker
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And he's got to say that he's on his way to Soviet Union. You can't say he's on his way back to Mexico because that's where we want to hide. So he has to say somewhere else. So he says Soviet Union. He pretends he knew already his visa had been canceled by the Soviets weeks ago. OK, but he's telling them down there at the Cuban at the Mexico City desk at Mexico City, Russian embassy.
And he's got to say that he's on his way to Soviet Union. You can't say he's on his way back to Mexico because that's where we want to hide. So he has to say somewhere else. So he says Soviet Union. He pretends he knew already his visa had been canceled by the Soviets weeks ago. OK, but he's telling them down there at the Cuban at the Mexico City desk at Mexico City, Russian embassy.
And he's got to say that he's on his way to Soviet Union. You can't say he's on his way back to Mexico because that's where we want to hide. So he has to say somewhere else. So he says Soviet Union. He pretends he knew already his visa had been canceled by the Soviets weeks ago. OK, but he's telling them down there at the Cuban at the Mexico City desk at Mexico City, Russian embassy.
Telling them, hey, look, I don't whether my visa came to get me a Russian visa. You can do that. They said, well, it's going to take 10 days. You know what he said? I don't have 10 days. This is a special case. I only have three days. Now, why did he say that? That's on record because the bioweapon would be dead after three days. Okay. They said, are you out of your mind?
Telling them, hey, look, I don't whether my visa came to get me a Russian visa. You can do that. They said, well, it's going to take 10 days. You know what he said? I don't have 10 days. This is a special case. I only have three days. Now, why did he say that? That's on record because the bioweapon would be dead after three days. Okay. They said, are you out of your mind?
Telling them, hey, look, I don't whether my visa came to get me a Russian visa. You can do that. They said, well, it's going to take 10 days. You know what he said? I don't have 10 days. This is a special case. I only have three days. Now, why did he say that? That's on record because the bioweapon would be dead after three days. Okay. They said, are you out of your mind?
You've got 10 more days on your visa. We probably could get you a visa by then.
You've got 10 more days on your visa. We probably could get you a visa by then.
You've got 10 more days on your visa. We probably could get you a visa by then.
In fact, it came through on his birthday, October 18th. Okay. He was already back. They ordered him back to Dallas by then.
In fact, it came through on his birthday, October 18th. Okay. He was already back. They ordered him back to Dallas by then.
In fact, it came through on his birthday, October 18th. Okay. He was already back. They ordered him back to Dallas by then.
So you've got it on record. He's saying, I've only got three days. It's because he was carrying the bioweapon and trying to pass it off.
So you've got it on record. He's saying, I've only got three days. It's because he was carrying the bioweapon and trying to pass it off.
So you've got it on record. He's saying, I've only got three days. It's because he was carrying the bioweapon and trying to pass it off.
That's right. So he's got to try and get it to Cuba. He's got to make the effort to make it look like he wants to go to Cuba. Remember, he really doesn't. By now, he's figured out, wait a minute, I'll bet they never wanted the Cubans to get this thing, and they just got me down here.
That's right. So he's got to try and get it to Cuba. He's got to make the effort to make it look like he wants to go to Cuba. Remember, he really doesn't. By now, he's figured out, wait a minute, I'll bet they never wanted the Cubans to get this thing, and they just got me down here.
That's right. So he's got to try and get it to Cuba. He's got to make the effort to make it look like he wants to go to Cuba. Remember, he really doesn't. By now, he's figured out, wait a minute, I'll bet they never wanted the Cubans to get this thing, and they just got me down here.
Well, I have one more quote to make. Just one more. He goes again to the embassy when that doesn't go through. He tries to reach Raul Aparicio. He runs into Teresa Proenza. Proenza is saying, I'm sorry he's not there. He had to go to the hospital. And by the way, Aparicio's office is bugged for that same day Leo's all showing up. Cuban embassy is not the same as a Cuban consulate.
Well, I have one more quote to make. Just one more. He goes again to the embassy when that doesn't go through. He tries to reach Raul Aparicio. He runs into Teresa Proenza. Proenza is saying, I'm sorry he's not there. He had to go to the hospital. And by the way, Aparicio's office is bugged for that same day Leo's all showing up. Cuban embassy is not the same as a Cuban consulate.