Judyth Vary Baker
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He tries again, the Soviet embassies. He puts a gun down on the table. He said, look what I have to carry. And they take the bullets out right away thinking he's nuts, you know. You've got to get me this visa right away. I know you can do it. Later he will try. And they're saying, what's the matter with this guy? He said, FBI is after me. Why would he?
He tries again, the Soviet embassies. He puts a gun down on the table. He said, look what I have to carry. And they take the bullets out right away thinking he's nuts, you know. You've got to get me this visa right away. I know you can do it. Later he will try. And they're saying, what's the matter with this guy? He said, FBI is after me. Why would he?
Because we were going to hide in Mexico and we would be working as pretending to be pro-Castro. And our reason for hiding would be that the FBI was after us. Therefore, we would be legitimate as, you know, working for the Castro and working for communists, okay, when we're really going to be informants for the CIA. That's what really was going on. They don't want any of this stuff to come out.
Because we were going to hide in Mexico and we would be working as pretending to be pro-Castro. And our reason for hiding would be that the FBI was after us. Therefore, we would be legitimate as, you know, working for the Castro and working for communists, okay, when we're really going to be informants for the CIA. That's what really was going on. They don't want any of this stuff to come out.
Because we were going to hide in Mexico and we would be working as pretending to be pro-Castro. And our reason for hiding would be that the FBI was after us. Therefore, we would be legitimate as, you know, working for the Castro and working for communists, okay, when we're really going to be informants for the CIA. That's what really was going on. They don't want any of this stuff to come out.
In fact, the day that Lee crosses the border on his way to Mexico City, there was a plane that was supposed to pick me up. Alexander Rourke and Jeffrey Sullivan were pilots. They were shot down the same day. Lee's crossing the border. They were going to pick me up, and they shot him down. It's on record.
In fact, the day that Lee crosses the border on his way to Mexico City, there was a plane that was supposed to pick me up. Alexander Rourke and Jeffrey Sullivan were pilots. They were shot down the same day. Lee's crossing the border. They were going to pick me up, and they shot him down. It's on record.
In fact, the day that Lee crosses the border on his way to Mexico City, there was a plane that was supposed to pick me up. Alexander Rourke and Jeffrey Sullivan were pilots. They were shot down the same day. Lee's crossing the border. They were going to pick me up, and they shot him down. It's on record.
Over Cuban waters.
Over Cuban waters.
Over Cuban waters.
Well, here's the thing. If you look at the map, you'll see from Belize straight over to Eglin Air Force Base where I was there. And I've got all kinds.
Well, here's the thing. If you look at the map, you'll see from Belize straight over to Eglin Air Force Base where I was there. And I've got all kinds.
Well, here's the thing. If you look at the map, you'll see from Belize straight over to Eglin Air Force Base where I was there. And I've got all kinds.
I had my bags packed and I was on my way to Eglin Air Force Base. okay where jeffrey sullivan and alexander rourke were going to pick me up by the way of all kinds of yeah okay and fly me to mexico got it to cancun cancun was all by itself i sent you something about uh dr willis andrews the fourth he had done an excavation in cancun by the way uh less than two years ago 15 researchers and i went
I had my bags packed and I was on my way to Eglin Air Force Base. okay where jeffrey sullivan and alexander rourke were going to pick me up by the way of all kinds of yeah okay and fly me to mexico got it to cancun cancun was all by itself i sent you something about uh dr willis andrews the fourth he had done an excavation in cancun by the way uh less than two years ago 15 researchers and i went
I had my bags packed and I was on my way to Eglin Air Force Base. okay where jeffrey sullivan and alexander rourke were going to pick me up by the way of all kinds of yeah okay and fly me to mexico got it to cancun cancun was all by itself i sent you something about uh dr willis andrews the fourth he had done an excavation in cancun by the way uh less than two years ago 15 researchers and i went
to Tulane, and we got evidence, yes indeed, they excavated in July of 1963 there. In August of 63, they had an exhibit at Tulane University showing they left food, water, everything there, and they were intending to go back, they never did. Lee and I were going to go there, and of course they got us to say Cancun wasn't, there was nothing there at the time.
to Tulane, and we got evidence, yes indeed, they excavated in July of 1963 there. In August of 63, they had an exhibit at Tulane University showing they left food, water, everything there, and they were intending to go back, they never did. Lee and I were going to go there, and of course they got us to say Cancun wasn't, there was nothing there at the time.
to Tulane, and we got evidence, yes indeed, they excavated in July of 1963 there. In August of 63, they had an exhibit at Tulane University showing they left food, water, everything there, and they were intending to go back, they never did. Lee and I were going to go there, and of course they got us to say Cancun wasn't, there was nothing there at the time.