Juju Chang

And they did a memorial walk, hike in her name because she really did love hiking.

You know, there's obviously multiple ways of looking at it.

I think the family members I spoke to said that they were relieved that the children didn't have to testify.

They felt that ultimately the punishments would have been similar, even between first degree and second degree, so that the sentence itself was not that huge a factor for them.

However...

getting all of this into the public domain you know what it's like when it becomes part of a public court record um it serves as an object lesson for others right and and you can you know see it as a road map to looking at behavior at patterns of behavior so in in many ways the larger questions of telling ashley's story even for 2020 to be able to tell her story

It serves as a tribute to Ashley and lessons for others.

You have sisters.

I have sisters.

Lindsay talked about this family text chain and how tight they were.

They were the type of sibling group that would vacation together.

Their kids, as cousins, you've talked about this too, are bonded to each other.

And so there is a giant hole in this family fabric.

And I think that it's worth remembering that it's never just one victim.

There are families on many sides who have been impacted by this.

I think he said words to the effect of, I deserve the punishment that I'm getting.

And it's hard to know what's in somebody's heart, but clearly he's got a lot of time to think about it.

Absolutely.

And the murder victim was just that.

She was on the cusp of launching into this brilliant life.