Julia Collins

There was capital flowing to it.

And so that was the energy, the zeitgeist of the moment.

But you know, I'm the girl who like started doing food trucks and restaurants in New York City.

So there was another part of me that was really focused on like capital efficiency, low burn, product market fit.

And those things were a little bit at odds, right?

And I actually wasn't convinced that we needed that much investment that quickly, that early.

But you could imagine at that time how crazy I sounded.

Yeah.

How crazy do you sound saying like, maybe that's a little too much money.

Was there a lot of ego involved?

Of course.

I mean, we wound up even on that show Silicon Valley.

Totally, totally.

They had our pizza box.

So you start to...

Your ego is really at odds, I think, with your sort of like soul in some ways.

Yes, because those two things are inextricably linked.

You know that when you raise venture money, it is not a grant.

And it's an obligation to return it at 10x in about five years.

So you better believe that you can turn $450 million into a couple of billion dollars and quickly.