Julia Collins

those two things are directly related, but it would be silly not to think there wasn't some relationship.

Absolutely.

So I really had to fight and I really had to make my peace.

Right.

And remember also, I'm just coming out of my first experience being pregnant and having a child.

Yeah.

Which is life-changing on its own without that pressure.

Especially that first time.

And for anybody who is going through that, who wasn't even planning to have children, it adds an extra level of disorientation because I hadn't thought, oh, in the future, you will be a mom.

And now that's happening.

There was so much change happening within me in my life at the same time that there was so much change happening at the company.

And the thing, if you ask like, how did you get through it?

I started to really invest in my own spiritual practice, which is something that I had completely ignored and neglected for many, many years.

And that is what got me through.

That's what gave me the stoicism and the, frankly, the anger.

that I needed to access to show up in the big way and fight like I needed to fight.

Haven't we all, babe?

We can be a little hot under the collar.

You know, you're getting the mellowed out version of Julia.

Because like the same place where the joy and the exuberance lives, there's a lot of passion and energy there.