Julia Collins

Oh my gosh.

The way I used to feel for my old board meetings, it was like a combination of like going to the Met Gala and like going into battle.

Right.

And 20 is a lot.

And that's a lot of pressure.

And what would happen is I wouldn't go, I would go with what appeared to be problems that I'd already solved.

Yeah.

Because I know I'm like, you're supposed to ask for help.

So make sure you ask for help, but don't ask for too much help.

Because they'll think you're incapable.

Because you don't want to look like you don't have your shit together.

And that just didn't allow me to be my best self.

So I think there was something in the way that I structured my new board.

You know, I said no to a

because I just didn't feel like I was going to be able to get in the room with those guys and like really have them work for me.

Your board is supposed to be working for you as a company.

No, but I didn't know you could ask for that.

It actually took one of my like best white male founder friends saying to me, oh, Julie, when I go to my board meetings, he's like, it feels like going to the spa.

I was like, what am I doing wrong here?

And what is going on?