Julia Collins

Yeah.

really to just think about how much we're consuming.

I think also raising kids during the pandemic and frankly, sometimes being a working mom, I defaulted to like, what's the thing that I can buy to fill the need?

What's the thing that I can buy that's going to delight them or entertain them or make it easier that I missed a bedtime tonight?

or make that long plane ride easier for them.

And I'm really trying to unwind that.

It's a slippery slope.

It's a real slippery slope.

How did you manage it with small children?

I do believe in staffing up.

I think it's really important to be able to hire a team around you, find amazing people, be very, very generous and take away some of the expectation that you have about being the one who cooks every dinner, folds every towel.

Like that isn't

necessarily the biggest value that I can have from my family.

What's new in my life now is I'm also a single mom for the first time.

It hasn't even been a year yet.

Wow.

So I'm learning a lot about what it means to be like the person at home for the boys.

And it has so much less to do with making dinner for them than it has to do with like giving them an extra snuggle or just being present with them.

But it isn't easy and it requires, I think, a lot of help.

Yeah, I think you've got to put your energy around what's the biggest problem of the moment.