Julia Dhar

And so you might know this, but for anyone who doesn't, think about competitive debate as we have a big topic or a big question on the table.

There are two sides to the issue.

One team talks for it, one team speaks against it, and you go back and forth exchanging these ideas.

And I share that as a starting point to say that's when I became, I think, that was the first moment where I said, oh.

Different people are different.

Like often people believe really profoundly different things or behave totally differently in response to the same information.

And I think that starting point in lots of classrooms in Australia actually got me thinking about who are we really as people?

Like, what do we want?

What do we want to be?

That's so interesting.

And so like from when you were a teenager, you were like, human behavior is just so fascinating to me.

Is that what you're saying?

Yeah.

And so one of the ways we say it is different people are different.

But another way to say it is

other people are so weird.

Everyone else is so strange.

And the more you say, it might be quite interesting, it might be quite helpful to start to understand them, which when I went to university and then eventually came to the United States to go to graduate school, I was scratching over and over again at this question of what is with other people.

And of course, people who are saying to themselves, what is with other people?

There's usually something else going on there.