Julia Louis-Dreyfus

Right.

But if you're in it endlessly, it starts to get cold.

But you did crush it pretty much as a broadcaster.

And I know that you had your own NBC or CNBC show, right, from 89 to 92?

Yeah, I did.

But I loved it.

I want to ask you, but I want to ask you about the Julia Child bit because I know she made you breakfast.

So wait, what kind of omelette did you say?

Oh, fine herb, uh-huh, yes.

Fienneserbe, yeah.

And you were out publicly as being gay when you started your broadcast career, right?

Yeah, but even before— Well, so can—please—

Please unpack that a little bit because I would think that that was a rarity back in the early 70s and certainly in the early 80s.

And what was that experience like for you to come out publicly at that time versus like now?

It's definitely bullshit, but I'm just wondering if, and it's so fantastic that you had that attitude about your own self, but I'm guessing you came across people that didn't have that attitude.

I guess you discounted them.

And also, I want to know what your mother's response was to this.

To your sexuality.

That was within a 24 or 48-hour period she did that pivot?

Yeah, she did.