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Julia Shaw

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1612 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so this case was often taken as this

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Almost example of look how terrible human beings are.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

We just walk by.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

We don't care about what's happening to strangers on the streets.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And actually what's happened since is that there's been lots of other bystander experiments and they have not substantiated this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

So we need to be very careful with looking at these extreme cases and going how horrible that this happened to this one person.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

But that doesn't mean that that's always how it happens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so actually what we find in bystander research is that most of the time bystanders do intervene.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

It's just when there has already been a crowd that has accumulated, you read the room and you assume, well, nobody else has intervened yet.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so it must not be a real problem.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

That desire to not stand out in a negative way is often what hinders intervention.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

I mean, that's why we look at heroes, people who especially risk their own lives to save others, especially strangers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

We see them with a sort of respect that nobody else gets.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And that's because we recognize that we might not be capable of that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

If I saw a stranger drowning in a river, would I really risk my life jumping in the river to maybe save them?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

I think that's a big question mark.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so when people do that, especially when people almost have this inherent reaction that they just jump in, they just go for it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

That is something that is a really admirable quality and that we as humans do celebrate and we should.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And I think often we should celebrate those incidents more and not the bystander moments where we didn't intervene.