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Julia Shaw

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1612 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Some point I was like, maybe I should do something about this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so I did.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so I went to a, well, I did a TED Talk and I was invited to this tech conference called Founders Forum, which is a sort of meeting of tech founders and others in London, but in also a couple other places.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And I was invited to this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And while there, I met the founder of Evernote, Phil Libin.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so I met Phil Libin at this event, and I was talking to him about my research on memory and how I've been wanting to implement or translate what I've been doing into something that could prevent false memories.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And specifically, I was interested in creating an AI or at least machine-administered version of the cognitive interview system.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

So that's the neutral approach.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

It's already a scripted approach, which was helpful.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

So it's been scripted for decades or a couple of decades.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

It's been scripted for decades as a cognitive interview.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And when we train police on how to do it in places like the UK, it's literally just asking people to basically read.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

a script that we have fine-tuned over the years.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And what can do that really well?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

Well, chatbots can do that really well.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And so together with Phil Libin and my two co-founders, Dylan and Daniel, I ended up co-founding Spot, which is talktospot.com if you want to check it out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And it ended up

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

sort of pivoting into this general reporting tool for workplaces, where this was before Me Too, but it was the idea being that in lots of workplace environments, you have important emotional events that are really important to understand, but are really hard to preserve.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#483 โ€“ Julia Shaw: Criminal Psychology of Murder, Serial Killers, Memory & Sex

And often you have this really bad evidence that you're relying on.