Julian Morgans
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Podcast Appearances
But finally, it fired up, and Google Maps loaded, and a little blue dot placed her right on the Thai-Myanmar border. Katalia, she looked up through the window at her friends standing around the van and she suddenly understood what was happening.
But finally, it fired up, and Google Maps loaded, and a little blue dot placed her right on the Thai-Myanmar border. Katalia, she looked up through the window at her friends standing around the van and she suddenly understood what was happening.
So feeling like she had no other choice, Cataleya got back in the van and they headed for the Myanmar border. We're gonna take a quick ad break here, but when we come back, Cataleya is smuggled over the border to the scammer farm that becomes her home.
So feeling like she had no other choice, Cataleya got back in the van and they headed for the Myanmar border. We're gonna take a quick ad break here, but when we come back, Cataleya is smuggled over the border to the scammer farm that becomes her home.
Hey, welcome back. So our guest, Katalia, she's arrived in Thailand and she's pretty clued on to what's happening. She knows that she's about to get recruited into scamming. But the thing that's unique about her situation is that she's not smuggled across the border in a boat. Almost everyone gets in that way.
Hey, welcome back. So our guest, Katalia, she's arrived in Thailand and she's pretty clued on to what's happening. She knows that she's about to get recruited into scamming. But the thing that's unique about her situation is that she's not smuggled across the border in a boat. Almost everyone gets in that way.
But Katalia, she was actually just driven across the border and told to duck her head down as they went through the checkpoint. And she watched through the window as each of the border guards were handed a big wad of cash.
But Katalia, she was actually just driven across the border and told to duck her head down as they went through the checkpoint. And she watched through the window as each of the border guards were handed a big wad of cash.
They were getting paid off. Exactly. And then they drove for another two hours and pulled up outside the enormous gates of a scammer farm. Can you describe what it looks like?
They were getting paid off. Exactly. And then they drove for another two hours and pulled up outside the enormous gates of a scammer farm. Can you describe what it looks like?
How many people were there? Like, would you say like hundreds or thousands?
How many people were there? Like, would you say like hundreds or thousands?
The van rolled through the gates, which closed behind them. And again, Catalina started yelling at the people that she'd previously considered her friends.
The van rolled through the gates, which closed behind them. And again, Catalina started yelling at the people that she'd previously considered her friends.
So far, we've been focusing on the human element of this story. You know, it's been all about Kuen Cataleya's experience of abduction. But let's pause here, just for a moment, for some quick stats on the scammer industry. Actually, it's a quick lesson in geography. So I keep saying that there are scammer farms throughout Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar, but these are all big countries, right?
So far, we've been focusing on the human element of this story. You know, it's been all about Kuen Cataleya's experience of abduction. But let's pause here, just for a moment, for some quick stats on the scammer industry. Actually, it's a quick lesson in geography. So I keep saying that there are scammer farms throughout Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar, but these are all big countries, right?
With farms operating in very different ways. So for the sake of simplicity, we're going to focus only on Myanmar throughout this series. And in Myanmar, what you need to know is that there are two main regions where scamming has become their primary industry. First, let's start with Mayawati, which is a town in southeastern Myanmar.
With farms operating in very different ways. So for the sake of simplicity, we're going to focus only on Myanmar throughout this series. And in Myanmar, what you need to know is that there are two main regions where scamming has become their primary industry. First, let's start with Mayawati, which is a town in southeastern Myanmar.
It's separated from Thailand by the Moi River, and that was the river that Kew was smuggled over in the previous episode. And this is the main region for scammer farms. It's where Myanmar's first scammer farm was set up in about 2020. And this place, it's enormous. It's called KK Park, and it's become so large that over the last five years, it's been split into four suburbs.
It's separated from Thailand by the Moi River, and that was the river that Kew was smuggled over in the previous episode. And this is the main region for scammer farms. It's where Myanmar's first scammer farm was set up in about 2020. And this place, it's enormous. It's called KK Park, and it's become so large that over the last five years, it's been split into four suburbs.